Thread: Press Release? Hello?

Press Release? Hello?

From
"Josh Berkus"
Date:
Folks,

HEY!  We're going to need a press release in possibly as little as 12
days.   Before then, we'll want to have it translated and may need some
quotes approved.

So how about some feedback, hey?   Corrections?   Answers to questions?

-Josh

Re: Press Release? Hello?

From
Justin Clift
Date:
Hi everyone,

Can everyone please take a look at the Press Release for PostgreSQL 7.3
that we've been working on, and make suggestions as appropriate:

http://techdocs.postgresql.org/guides/Pressrelease73

:-)

Regards and best wishes,

Justin Clift


Josh Berkus wrote:
>
> Folks,
>
> HEY!  We're going to need a press release in possibly as little as 12
> days.   Before then, we'll want to have it translated and may need some
> quotes approved.
>
> So how about some feedback, hey?   Corrections?   Answers to questions?
>
> -Josh

--
"My grandfather once told me that there are two kinds of people: those
who work and those who take the credit. He told me to try to be in the
first group; there was less competition there."
   - Indira Gandhi

Re: Press Release? Hello?

From
"Marc G. Fournier"
Date:
Put my phone number down as +1 902 542 0713, and my email as
scrappy@postgresql.org like Justin's ... other then that, it sounds great
to me ...


On Thu, 14 Nov 2002, Justin Clift wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> Can everyone please take a look at the Press Release for PostgreSQL 7.3
> that we've been working on, and make suggestions as appropriate:
>
> http://techdocs.postgresql.org/guides/Pressrelease73
>
> :-)
>
> Regards and best wishes,
>
> Justin Clift
>
>
> Josh Berkus wrote:
> >
> > Folks,
> >
> > HEY!  We're going to need a press release in possibly as little as 12
> > days.   Before then, we'll want to have it translated and may need some
> > quotes approved.
> >
> > So how about some feedback, hey?   Corrections?   Answers to questions?
> >
> > -Josh
>
> --
> "My grandfather once told me that there are two kinds of people: those
> who work and those who take the credit. He told me to try to be in the
> first group; there was less competition there."
>    - Indira Gandhi
>
> ---------------------------(end of broadcast)---------------------------
> TIP 2: you can get off all lists at once with the unregister command
>     (send "unregister YourEmailAddressHere" to majordomo@postgresql.org)
>


Re: Press Release? Hello?

From
Justin Clift
Date:
"Marc G. Fournier" wrote:
>
> Put my phone number down as +1 902 542 0713, and my email as
> scrappy@postgresql.org like Justin's ... other then that, it sounds great
> to me ...

Thanks Marc, just did it.

Did you have a preference (or suggestion) in regards to the "About
PostgreSQL:" alternatives?

:-)

Regards and best wishes,

Justin Clift


> On Thu, 14 Nov 2002, Justin Clift wrote:
>
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > Can everyone please take a look at the Press Release for PostgreSQL 7.3
> > that we've been working on, and make suggestions as appropriate:
> >
> > http://techdocs.postgresql.org/guides/Pressrelease73
> >
> > :-)
> >
> > Regards and best wishes,
> >
> > Justin Clift
> >
> >
> > Josh Berkus wrote:
> > >
> > > Folks,
> > >
> > > HEY!  We're going to need a press release in possibly as little as 12
> > > days.   Before then, we'll want to have it translated and may need some
> > > quotes approved.
> > >
> > > So how about some feedback, hey?   Corrections?   Answers to questions?
> > >
> > > -Josh
> >
> > --
> > "My grandfather once told me that there are two kinds of people: those
> > who work and those who take the credit. He told me to try to be in the
> > first group; there was less competition there."
> >    - Indira Gandhi
> >
> > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)---------------------------
> > TIP 2: you can get off all lists at once with the unregister command
> >     (send "unregister YourEmailAddressHere" to majordomo@postgresql.org)
> >

--
"My grandfather once told me that there are two kinds of people: those
who work and those who take the credit. He told me to try to be in the
first group; there was less competition there."
   - Indira Gandhi

Re: Press Release? Hello?

From
"Marc G. Fournier"
Date:
Oh great ... I like them both? :(

A mix-n-match of the two (purely cut-n-paste, needs to be cleaned), but:

====================
Following more than 16 years of development by hundreds of the world's
most generous and brilliant minds from the open source community,
PostgreSQL continues to make the decision between free software and
commercial databases "a simple choice between open source or an open
wallet."

With it's long time support of an enterprise level feature set including
transactions, stored procedures, triggers, and subqueries PostgreSQL is
being used by many of todays most demanding businesses.

Many companies and agencies can no longer afford the high costs and
constantly changing terms of licensed commercial software - making
PostgreSQL one of the most highly sought after free technologies in the
market today. With the release of v7.3 the decision to choose PostgreSQL
is now even easier.
====================

Maybe with a pointer to advocacy for the case studies provided by some of
hte big-un's?


On Thu, 14 Nov 2002, Justin Clift wrote:

> "Marc G. Fournier" wrote:
> >
> > Put my phone number down as +1 902 542 0713, and my email as
> > scrappy@postgresql.org like Justin's ... other then that, it sounds great
> > to me ...
>
> Thanks Marc, just did it.
>
> Did you have a preference (or suggestion) in regards to the "About
> PostgreSQL:" alternatives?
>
> :-)
>
> Regards and best wishes,
>
> Justin Clift
>
>
> > On Thu, 14 Nov 2002, Justin Clift wrote:
> >
> > > Hi everyone,
> > >
> > > Can everyone please take a look at the Press Release for PostgreSQL 7.3
> > > that we've been working on, and make suggestions as appropriate:
> > >
> > > http://techdocs.postgresql.org/guides/Pressrelease73
> > >
> > > :-)
> > >
> > > Regards and best wishes,
> > >
> > > Justin Clift
> > >
> > >
> > > Josh Berkus wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Folks,
> > > >
> > > > HEY!  We're going to need a press release in possibly as little as 12
> > > > days.   Before then, we'll want to have it translated and may need some
> > > > quotes approved.
> > > >
> > > > So how about some feedback, hey?   Corrections?   Answers to questions?
> > > >
> > > > -Josh
> > >
> > > --
> > > "My grandfather once told me that there are two kinds of people: those
> > > who work and those who take the credit. He told me to try to be in the
> > > first group; there was less competition there."
> > >    - Indira Gandhi
> > >
> > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)---------------------------
> > > TIP 2: you can get off all lists at once with the unregister command
> > >     (send "unregister YourEmailAddressHere" to majordomo@postgresql.org)
> > >
>
> --
> "My grandfather once told me that there are two kinds of people: those
> who work and those who take the credit. He told me to try to be in the
> first group; there was less competition there."
>    - Indira Gandhi
>


Re: Press Release? Hello?

From
Josh Berkus
Date:
Marc,

> Put my phone number down as +1 902 542 0713, and my email as
> scrappy@postgresql.org like Justin's ... other then that, it sounds great
> to me ...

Thanks!   Can you also give me a rough figure on total mailing list
subscribers for PostgreSQL?

--
-Josh Berkus

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Re: Press Release? Hello?

From
"Marc G. Fournier"
Date:
On Wed, 13 Nov 2002, Josh Berkus wrote:

> Marc,
>
> > Put my phone number down as +1 902 542 0713, and my email as
> > scrappy@postgresql.org like Justin's ... other then that, it sounds great
> > to me ...
>
> Thanks!   Can you also give me a rough figure on total mailing list

Doesn't include duplicates, but here is what hte lists look like right
now:

global registry         0 out of 13488
pgadmin-hackers         0 out of 82
pgadmin-support         0 out of 244
pgsql-admin             0 out of 1518
pgsql-advocacy          0 out of 145
pgsql-announce          0 out of 2222
pgsql-benchmarks        0 out of 242
pgsql-bugs              0 out of 660
pgsql-chat              0 out of 107
pgsql-committers        0 out of 141
pgsql-core              0 out of 7
pgsql-cygwin            0 out of 305
pgsql-docs              0 out of 444
pgsql-general           0 out of 1770
pgsql-hackers           0 out of 1051
pgsql-interfaces        0 out of 966
pgsql-jdbc              0 out of 806
pgsql-novice            0 out of 1096
pgsql-odbc              0 out of 528
pgsql-patches           0 out of 288
pgsql-performance       0 out of 213
pgsql-php               0 out of 741
pgsql-ports             0 out of 280
pgsql-sql               0 out of 1357
pgsql-techdocs          0 out of 114
pgsql-tr-genel          0 out of 24
pgsql-www               0 out of 10
pgsql-www-advocacy      0 out of 2
pgsql-www-jobs          0 out of 10
pgsql-www-main          0 out of 4
sfpug                   0 out of 25

I *believe* that the 'global registry' is exactly that ... one entry for
each person subscribed, but am not 100% certain of that ...

helpfully this helps ... ?



Re: Press Release? Hello?

From
Richard Huxton
Date:
On Wednesday 13 Nov 2002 6:34 pm, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> Oh great ... I like them both? :(

Personally prefer the second end-section.

>
> Maybe with a pointer to advocacy for the case studies provided by some of
> hte big-un's?

Definitely - otherwise we're wasting everyone's hard work on
advocacy.postgresql.org



--
  Richard Huxton

Re: Press Release? Hello?

From
Robert Treat
Date:
Hmm... maybe this goes back to the whole target audience thing, but I
think we'd get a much bigger win by dropping names of folks using
postgresql than we do by highlighting the free (as in beer) aspect of
it.  (disclaimer - I wrote the second ending)

Robert Treat


On Wed, 2002-11-13 at 13:34, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
>
> Oh great ... I like them both? :(
>
> A mix-n-match of the two (purely cut-n-paste, needs to be cleaned), but:
>
> ====================
> Following more than 16 years of development by hundreds of the world's
> most generous and brilliant minds from the open source community,
> PostgreSQL continues to make the decision between free software and
> commercial databases "a simple choice between open source or an open
> wallet."
>
> With it's long time support of an enterprise level feature set including
> transactions, stored procedures, triggers, and subqueries PostgreSQL is
> being used by many of todays most demanding businesses.
>
> Many companies and agencies can no longer afford the high costs and
> constantly changing terms of licensed commercial software - making
> PostgreSQL one of the most highly sought after free technologies in the
> market today. With the release of v7.3 the decision to choose PostgreSQL
> is now even easier.
> ====================
>
> Maybe with a pointer to advocacy for the case studies provided by some of
> hte big-un's?
>
>




Re: Press Release? Hello?

From
"Marc G. Fournier"
Date:
On 13 Nov 2002, Robert Treat wrote:

> Hmm... maybe this goes back to the whole target audience thing, but I
> think we'd get a much bigger win by dropping names of folks using
> postgresql than we do by highlighting the free (as in beer) aspect of
> it.  (disclaimer - I wrote the second ending)

Okay, the first name I'd "drop" from that second ending is RedHat, since
they no longer do "PostgreSQL" as PostgreSQL ... as for the other names,
do we have permission to use them?  Several companies tend to be kinda
hesitant to advertise use of PgSQL, for fear of being "jumped" by Oracle
and such for their decision ...


>
> Robert Treat
>
>
> On Wed, 2002-11-13 at 13:34, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> >
> > Oh great ... I like them both? :(
> >
> > A mix-n-match of the two (purely cut-n-paste, needs to be cleaned), but:
> >
> > ====================
> > Following more than 16 years of development by hundreds of the world's
> > most generous and brilliant minds from the open source community,
> > PostgreSQL continues to make the decision between free software and
> > commercial databases "a simple choice between open source or an open
> > wallet."
> >
> > With it's long time support of an enterprise level feature set including
> > transactions, stored procedures, triggers, and subqueries PostgreSQL is
> > being used by many of todays most demanding businesses.
> >
> > Many companies and agencies can no longer afford the high costs and
> > constantly changing terms of licensed commercial software - making
> > PostgreSQL one of the most highly sought after free technologies in the
> > market today. With the release of v7.3 the decision to choose PostgreSQL
> > is now even easier.
> > ====================
> >
> > Maybe with a pointer to advocacy for the case studies provided by some of
> > hte big-un's?
> >
> >
>
>
>
>


Re: Press Release? Hello?

From
Robert Treat
Date:
On Wed, 2002-11-13 at 14:34, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> On 13 Nov 2002, Robert Treat wrote:
>
> > Hmm... maybe this goes back to the whole target audience thing, but I
> > think we'd get a much bigger win by dropping names of folks using
> > postgresql than we do by highlighting the free (as in beer) aspect of
> > it.  (disclaimer - I wrote the second ending)
>
> Okay, the first name I'd "drop" from that second ending is RedHat, since
> they no longer do "PostgreSQL" as PostgreSQL ...

They no longer do PostgreSQL as PostgreSQL, but that doesn't mean they
don't rely on it. This is like saying command prompt doesn't do
PostgreSQL because they call it Mammoth PostgreSQL. I don't think it's a
stretch to say these types of products have ties to the main code base.

as for the other names,
> do we have permission to use them?  Several companies tend to be kinda
> hesitant to advertise use of PgSQL, for fear of being "jumped" by Oracle
> and such for their decision ...
>

FWIW I got these names from previous news articles written regarding
PostgreSQL.

Robert Treat


> >
> > Robert Treat
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 2002-11-13 at 13:34, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> > >
> > > Oh great ... I like them both? :(
> > >
> > > A mix-n-match of the two (purely cut-n-paste, needs to be cleaned), but:
> > >
> > > ====================
> > > Following more than 16 years of development by hundreds of the world's
> > > most generous and brilliant minds from the open source community,
> > > PostgreSQL continues to make the decision between free software and
> > > commercial databases "a simple choice between open source or an open
> > > wallet."
> > >
> > > With it's long time support of an enterprise level feature set including
> > > transactions, stored procedures, triggers, and subqueries PostgreSQL is
> > > being used by many of todays most demanding businesses.
> > >
> > > Many companies and agencies can no longer afford the high costs and
> > > constantly changing terms of licensed commercial software - making
> > > PostgreSQL one of the most highly sought after free technologies in the
> > > market today. With the release of v7.3 the decision to choose PostgreSQL
> > > is now even easier.
> > > ====================
> > >
> > > Maybe with a pointer to advocacy for the case studies provided by some of
> > > hte big-un's?
> > >


Re: Press Release? Hello?

From
Josh Berkus
Date:
Marc,

> Doesn't include duplicates, but here is what hte lists look like right
> now:
>
> global registry         0 out of 13488
> pgadmin-hackers         0 out of 82
> pgadmin-support         0 out of 244
> pgsql-admin             0 out of 1518
> pgsql-advocacy          0 out of 145
> pgsql-announce          0 out of 2222
> pgsql-benchmarks        0 out of 242
> pgsql-bugs              0 out of 660
> pgsql-chat              0 out of 107
> pgsql-committers        0 out of 141
> pgsql-core              0 out of 7
> pgsql-cygwin            0 out of 305
> pgsql-docs              0 out of 444
> pgsql-general           0 out of 1770
> pgsql-hackers           0 out of 1051
> pgsql-interfaces        0 out of 966
> pgsql-jdbc              0 out of 806
> pgsql-novice            0 out of 1096
> pgsql-odbc              0 out of 528
> pgsql-patches           0 out of 288
> pgsql-performance       0 out of 213
> pgsql-php               0 out of 741
> pgsql-ports             0 out of 280
> pgsql-sql               0 out of 1357
> pgsql-techdocs          0 out of 114
> pgsql-tr-genel          0 out of 24
> pgsql-www               0 out of 10
> pgsql-www-advocacy      0 out of 2
> pgsql-www-jobs          0 out of 10
> pgsql-www-main          0 out of 4
> sfpug                   0 out of 25
>
> I *believe* that the 'global registry' is exactly that ... one entry for
> each person subscribed, but am not 100% certain of that ...

I think it includes duplicates, since It'd be hard for me to believe that
there's 10,000 people subscribed to other lists and not to Announce or
General.

I'll say "Over 2500 members".

--
-Josh Berkus

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                                        Josh Berkus
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Re: Press Release -- Numbers

From
Josh Berkus
Date:
Folks,

Discussing the press release on IRC, we realized that we really want the
number of code, /contrib, and GBORG contributors.   Can anyone think of a way
we could get that?

--
-Josh Berkus
 Aglio Database Solutions
 San Francisco