Thread: Re: [HACKERS] Companies involved in development

Re: [HACKERS] Companies involved in development

From
Andrew Sullivan
Date:
I think I spelled -advocacy correctly this time.

On Thu, Aug 15, 2002 at 05:34:13PM +0200, Hans-J?rgen Sch?nig wrote:
> I think it would be a huge benefit for the community to have some more
> company-funding. This would lead to the implementation of some features
> people need urgently (replication in the core and so forth). On the

> For a company PostgreSQL definitely is an interesting area to invest
> because it has proven to be a good product and there are just minor
> things (sync. replication - eg. Postgres-R) missing to make it a real
> enterprise database. The support of the community of more than just
> optimal and it is an interesting subject.

> Also: It would be interesting to have a special section on the website
> where people can post that they need money to implement something really
> useful. I guess there'd be a lot of people who'd pay for replication or
> things like that if they knew more.

Some time ago, I posted that I was looking for people interested in
making the replication stuff complete.  I'm still working on that
(and I _may_ be getting somewhere, BTW), but there is a lot of work
to be done there, and I think quite a bit of high-quality code needs
to be written.  And that high-quiality code requires high-quality
developers.

Now, it strikes me that sometimes, several companies might be able to
afford to subsidise this sort of development, if only they had a way
of getting together to do this.  I find that the corporate folks here
really like the idea of "co-development".  The idea is to spread the
risk, where everyone gets the return.  Can anyone think of an idea of
how to set up some sort of organisation to do this?  Or maybe, are
commercial organisations like PostgreSQL the best answer?  The
problem is frequently that the names of the funders frequently need
to remain secret-ish, because a lot of companies are reluctant to
discuss using Postgres.

Any suggestions?  I know I'd have an easier sell to support this sort
of development if we didn't have to foot the whole bill.

A

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Re: [HACKERS] Companies involved in development

From
Bruce Momjian
Date:
I am willing to talk to anyone about this.  There is a reason my phone
number is in my signature (note new phone number;  I just moved.)

Also, I am willing to make trips to companies to talk about PostgreSQL.
I can't make 100's of trips a year, but I try to do at least on a month.
I just did one last week. If your company is interested in funding or a
visit to talk about PostgreSQL, I am ready.  Also, for the advocacy
site, I will be putting together a list of people around the world who
are ready to talk via phone or visit about PostgreSQL.

I am a little bogged down on the pre-beta issue, but plan to hit this
full force once beta begins.

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Andrew Sullivan wrote:
> I think I spelled -advocacy correctly this time.
>
> On Thu, Aug 15, 2002 at 05:34:13PM +0200, Hans-J?rgen Sch?nig wrote:
> > I think it would be a huge benefit for the community to have some more
> > company-funding. This would lead to the implementation of some features
> > people need urgently (replication in the core and so forth). On the
>
> > For a company PostgreSQL definitely is an interesting area to invest
> > because it has proven to be a good product and there are just minor
> > things (sync. replication - eg. Postgres-R) missing to make it a real
> > enterprise database. The support of the community of more than just
> > optimal and it is an interesting subject.
>
> > Also: It would be interesting to have a special section on the website
> > where people can post that they need money to implement something really
> > useful. I guess there'd be a lot of people who'd pay for replication or
> > things like that if they knew more.
>
> Some time ago, I posted that I was looking for people interested in
> making the replication stuff complete.  I'm still working on that
> (and I _may_ be getting somewhere, BTW), but there is a lot of work
> to be done there, and I think quite a bit of high-quality code needs
> to be written.  And that high-quiality code requires high-quality
> developers.
>
> Now, it strikes me that sometimes, several companies might be able to
> afford to subsidise this sort of development, if only they had a way
> of getting together to do this.  I find that the corporate folks here
> really like the idea of "co-development".  The idea is to spread the
> risk, where everyone gets the return.  Can anyone think of an idea of
> how to set up some sort of organisation to do this?  Or maybe, are
> commercial organisations like PostgreSQL the best answer?  The
> problem is frequently that the names of the funders frequently need
> to remain secret-ish, because a lot of companies are reluctant to
> discuss using Postgres.
>
> Any suggestions?  I know I'd have an easier sell to support this sort
> of development if we didn't have to foot the whole bill.
>
> A
>
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Re: [HACKERS] Companies involved in development

From
Bruce Momjian
Date:
Of course, any funding information would be shared by the core group so
they are involved, but not shared to the general list until the company
wishes.


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Andrew Sullivan wrote:
> I think I spelled -advocacy correctly this time.
>
> On Thu, Aug 15, 2002 at 05:34:13PM +0200, Hans-J?rgen Sch?nig wrote:
> > I think it would be a huge benefit for the community to have some more
> > company-funding. This would lead to the implementation of some features
> > people need urgently (replication in the core and so forth). On the
>
> > For a company PostgreSQL definitely is an interesting area to invest
> > because it has proven to be a good product and there are just minor
> > things (sync. replication - eg. Postgres-R) missing to make it a real
> > enterprise database. The support of the community of more than just
> > optimal and it is an interesting subject.
>
> > Also: It would be interesting to have a special section on the website
> > where people can post that they need money to implement something really
> > useful. I guess there'd be a lot of people who'd pay for replication or
> > things like that if they knew more.
>
> Some time ago, I posted that I was looking for people interested in
> making the replication stuff complete.  I'm still working on that
> (and I _may_ be getting somewhere, BTW), but there is a lot of work
> to be done there, and I think quite a bit of high-quality code needs
> to be written.  And that high-quiality code requires high-quality
> developers.
>
> Now, it strikes me that sometimes, several companies might be able to
> afford to subsidise this sort of development, if only they had a way
> of getting together to do this.  I find that the corporate folks here
> really like the idea of "co-development".  The idea is to spread the
> risk, where everyone gets the return.  Can anyone think of an idea of
> how to set up some sort of organisation to do this?  Or maybe, are
> commercial organisations like PostgreSQL the best answer?  The
> problem is frequently that the names of the funders frequently need
> to remain secret-ish, because a lot of companies are reluctant to
> discuss using Postgres.
>
> Any suggestions?  I know I'd have an easier sell to support this sort
> of development if we didn't have to foot the whole bill.
>
> A
>
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> ----
> Andrew Sullivan                               87 Mowat Avenue
> Liberty RMS                           Toronto, Ontario Canada
> <andrew@libertyrms.info>                              M6K 3E3
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>
>
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