Thread: German translation bug

Hello,

version 1.12.2

Connect to Server (Verbindung zum Server hinzufügen)

Somebody translated the word host by using the word Server.
Which is totally confusing.
I didn't expect that I have to fill the host in a field that is named 
server.

The German word for host is Host.

Susanne

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Le 11/01/2011 14:57, Susanne Ebrecht a écrit :
> [...]
> version 1.12.2
> 
> Connect to Server (Verbindung zum Server hinzufügen)
> 
> Somebody translated the word host by using the word Server.
> Which is totally confusing.
> I didn't expect that I have to fill the host in a field that is named
> server.
> 
> The German word for host is Host.
> 

Harald, can you get a look at this comment? and if it is interesting,
can you send me a fixed pgadmin.po? Thanks.


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Hello,

sorry for barging in.

In German you can both - software and hardware - call a server indeed:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Server

As PostgreSQL servers don't have a name by themselves people familiar
with PostgreSQL know that they have to enter the host's address.

Both server and host are English terms. However, why use a term that is
as ambiguous as server in German in this case?

I don't think anybody would try to enter a PostgreSQL server's name in a
field labeled 'Host'.

So I'd favour Host as label for this field in the German 'translation'
as well.

Regards,

Peter

Am 11.01.2011 20:00, schrieb Jasmin Dizdarevic:
> Practically there is even in german no difference between server and
> host. And recording to this
> (http://www.wer-weiss-was.de/theme13/article1208446.html in german) is
> server the better choise.
> 
> Looking at other products, the word server is more often used than host.
> 
> 2011/1/11 Guillaume Lelarge <guillaume@lelarge.info
> <mailto:guillaume@lelarge.info>>
> 
>     Le 11/01/2011 14:57, Susanne Ebrecht a écrit :
>     > [...]
>     > version 1.12.2
>     >
>     > Connect to Server (Verbindung zum Server hinzufügen)
>     >
>     > Somebody translated the word host by using the word Server.
>     > Which is totally confusing.
>     > I didn't expect that I have to fill the host in a field that is named
>     > server.
>     >
>     > The German word for host is Host.
>     >
> 
>     Harald, can you get a look at this comment? and if it is interesting,
>     can you send me a fixed pgadmin.po? Thanks.
> 
> 
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Hello Harald,<br /><br /> On 12.01.2011 12:36, Harald Armin Massa[legacy] wrote:<br /><blockquote
cite="mid:AANLkTinbwbGi=7HJz=szcVp7+NKSwgKzWdhjb93mdgKk@mail.gmail.com"type="cite"><pre wrap="">
 
I concur that "Host" and "Server" both are valid translations of the "host"
field. I think translation "Server"  predates my translation efforts by
years.
</pre></blockquote><br /> As we already figured out - it is a Unix vs. Windows world difference.<br /> Windows folk
mightbe familiar with calling a host a server but in<br /> Linux/Unix world a server is either a daemon or hardware.<br
/><br/> Anyway .... here is my opinion:<br /><br /><blockquote
cite="mid:AANLkTinbwbGi=7HJz=szcVp7+NKSwgKzWdhjb93mdgKk@mail.gmail.com"type="cite"><pre wrap="">a) change "Server" to
"Host"and make it easier for some of the newcomers
 
and invalidate all existing external documentations
</pre></blockquote><br /> As we already figured out ... maybe Windows folk will complain then.<br /><br /><blockquote
cite="mid:AANLkTinbwbGi=7HJz=szcVp7+NKSwgKzWdhjb93mdgKk@mail.gmail.com"type="cite"><pre wrap="">b) change "Server" to
"Server/Host"to make it easier for some of the
 
newcomers and only partly invalidate all existing external documentations
</pre></blockquote><br /> I prefer this.<br /><br /><blockquote
cite="mid:AANLkTinbwbGi=7HJz=szcVp7+NKSwgKzWdhjb93mdgKk@mail.gmail.com"type="cite"><pre wrap="">c) leave it as it is
 
</pre></blockquote><br /> The whole German PostgreSQL documentation translated host with Host.<br /> Only PgAdmin calls
itserver.<br /> Do you really want that we change all the other PostgreSQL translations?<br /> Error messages, help
tablesand so on and so on?<br /> I doubt.<br /><br /><blockquote
cite="mid:AANLkTinbwbGi=7HJz=szcVp7+NKSwgKzWdhjb93mdgKk@mail.gmail.com"type="cite"><pre wrap="">d) change it to Server
(Netzwerkadresse),thereby only partly invalidate all
 
existing external documetation but being more explicit
</pre></blockquote><br /> Netzwerkadresse sounds like Wagenrückholtaste -> Everybody calls it Return or Enter today
:)<br/> Honestly, Netzwerkadresse is antiquated.<br /><br /> Look what Duden says:<br /><br /><div
class="resultList"><bclass="copy-bold"><a
href="http://www.duden-suche.de/suche/abstract.php?shortname=fx&artikel_id=1006740">Host</a></b>,der; -[s], -s
[engl.host (<a
href="http://www.duden-suche.de/suche/abstract.php?shortname=fx&verweis=1&artikel_id=76071">→Hostess</a>)]
(EDV):(in einem System von Computern od. Terminals) ...<br /><br /><br /></div> Susanne<br /><pre class="moz-signature"
cols="72">--
 
Susanne Ebrecht
Bielefeld
</pre>

On 12.01.2011 14:31, r d wrote:
> Sorry, but server (EN) translates to Server (DE).
> Host (EN) translates to Host (DE).

Thanks. That is exactly my opinion.

Btw. I referred to the Window that you get after you click
"Add connection" "Verbindung hinzufügen".

In the English version you have there the word "Host".
In the German version the word "Host" was translated to "Server".

As somebody who never worked with Windows you really have no
clue what you should fill there because the word server for host is
not usual on Linux/Unix.

Susanne

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