Polite answers lead to polite discussions. Caling other people names lead to flame wars. It's perfectly ok for Skype to keep our own build of 8.3 with given patch and make it available for whoever might want it. At least now there is almost good enough description why the patch was needed althou it would have been more pleasant if the discussion had been constructive. We didn't keep close enough watch on the list when 8.3 plan invalidation was discussed and it came as bad surprise to us that some parts important to us were left out.
By the way it's real nice what you are doing with in and exists improvements. Thanks.
regards Asko
On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 8:06 PM, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:
> Another thing I do not understand well is how people are expected to work in > 8.3 with a function based API, without hitting Skype problems.
I could understand this level of complaining if this were a new problem that'd appeared in 8.3. But *every PG version that we've ever released* behaves the same way with respect to function drop/recreate. If the Skype folk have developed a way of working that is guaranteed not to work with any released version, one has to wonder what they were thinking.
If you need to DROP rather than CREATE OR REPLACE functions, then 8.3 doesn't make things better for you than prior releases did, but it does't make them worse either. Making things better for that case is unequivocally a new feature. And it's rather a corner case at that, else there would have been enough prior complaints to put it on the radar screen for 8.3.
What we've got at this point is a submitted patch for a new feature that hasn't even been accepted into HEAD yet. Lobbying to get it back-patched is entirely inappropriate IMHO.