P=C3=A5 tirsdag 05. februar 2013 kl. 11:26:20, skrev Alban Hertroys &l=
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h Krogh <<a href=3D"mailto:andreak@officenet.no" targe=
t=3D"_blank">andreak@officenet.no> wrote:
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P=C3=A5 tirsdag 05. februar 2013 kl. 11:04:27, skrev Thomas Kellerer &=
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Andreas =
Joseph Krogh, 05.02.2013 10:57:
> The value of having NOT NULL deferrable is, well, to not check for
> NULL until the tx commits. When working with ORMs this often is the
> case, especially with circular FKs.
With circular FKs it's enough to define the FK constraint as deferred.
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I meant; circular FKs which are also NOT NULL=C2=A0
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=C2=A0If you would use that, every pair of circular inserts would requ=
ire 2 inserts and an update (=3Dinsert & delete in MVCC):
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1; insert node 1 with FK null,
2; insert node 2 referencing node1,
3; update node 1 with FK to node 2.
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OTOH, when you decide the FK from node 1 to node 2 before inserting no=
de 1 and have the FK constraint(s) deferrable, then you only need to insert=
both records:
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1; decide FK key from node 1 to node 2,
2; insert node 1 referencing node 2,
3; insert node 2 referencing node 1
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This case typically only occurs when you're using surrogate keys, but =
even in that case you can select nextval(...).
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The deferred FK approach has the benefit that you don't create 3 copie=
s of the record for node 1, so table and index bloat will be less.
--
If you can't see the forest for the trees,
Cut the trees and you'll see there is no forest.
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There are lots of things you can do, but when it's the ORM which does =
it you have limited control, and that's the way it should to be (me as appl=
ication-developer having to worry less about such details).
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