Re: your thoughts on a crazy idea please - Mailing list pgsql-general

From Richard_D_Levine@raytheon.com
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In response to your thoughts on a crazy idea please  (Andrew Chambers <andychambers2002@yahoo.co.uk>)
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As an academic exercise it would be interesting to try and create the
*next* RDBMS query language.  In a production environment I do think the
idea is crazy.

I've got a little experience with this.  Interbase used to support a more
procedural query language called GDML (along with SQL).  I used it in a
production system.  I had a reason, which was that it supported
multi-threading (like SET CONNECTION does in more recent SQL.)  In
retrospect, it was a lousy decision.

First off, it wasn't all that popular, and Borland dropped support for it.
So much for maintenance.  I was one of very few people who bothered to
learn it.  Great job security, if you want to maintain a legacy system as a
job your locked into.  Trained programmers, evolving capability, and a
helpful user community was nonexistent.  You got a problem?  You're on your
own.

Rick

pgsql-general-owner@postgresql.org wrote on 03/31/2005 07:46:02 PM:

> I came across an old RDBM called Business System 12
> (http://www.mcjones.org/System_R/bs12.html) a few days ago.  It seemed
> to have a much simpler method of specifying queries - more similar in
> style to relation algebra than SQL.  For example, some example code
> might look like this.
>
> view =                 join(rel_1, rel_2)    --assertains join criteria
> based on primary keys
> filtered_view =    select(condition_list, view)
> result =               project(attribute_list, filtered_view)
>
> Ignoring for a minute that SQL is the accepted method of talking to
> databases, and also acknowledging that SQL may be more expressive than
> relational algebra, I wondered if it would be possible to extend
> Postgresql to allow non-sql interfaces to simple database services.
>
> I suppose it would be possible to convert statements like those above
> into their SQL equivalent before passing them to an existing driver, but
> from reading the docs, it seems that dbmses usually do these types of
> operations once they have parsed the SQL anyway.
>
> I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on the subject whatever they
> are.  Critical comments are particularly welcome (they might be quite
> useful for getting this stupid idea out of my head ;-)).
>
> Regards,
> Andy
>
>
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