Re: OpenSSL randomness seeding - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Daniel Gustafsson
Subject Re: OpenSSL randomness seeding
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Msg-id D05277F7-89C8-42DD-BEB6-CA40A7ACE8D3@yesql.se
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In response to Re: OpenSSL randomness seeding  (David Steele <david@pgmasters.net>)
Responses Re: OpenSSL randomness seeding  (David Steele <david@pgmasters.net>)
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> On 21 Jul 2020, at 17:31, David Steele <david@pgmasters.net> wrote:
> On 7/21/20 8:13 AM, Daniel Gustafsson wrote:

>> Another thing that stood out when reviewing this code is that we optimize for
>> RAND_poll failing in pg_strong_random, when we already have RAND_status
>> checking for a sufficiently seeded RNG for us.  ISTM that we can simplify the
>> code by letting RAND_status do the work as per 0002, and also (while unlikely)
>> survive any transient failures in RAND_poll by allowing all the retries we've
>> defined for the loop.
>
> I wonder how effective the retries are going to be if they happen immediately. However, most of the code paths I
followedended in a hard error when pg_strong_random() failed so it may not hurt to try. I just worry that some caller
isdepending on a faster failure here. 

There is that, but I'm not convinced that relying on specific timing for
anything RNG or similarly cryptographic-related is especially sane.

cheers ./daniel


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