On 2014-12-18 10:02:25 -0800, Joshua D. Drake wrote:
I think a lot of hackers forget exactly how tender their egos are. Now I say this knowing that a lot of them will go, "Oh give me a break" but as someone who employs hackers, deals with open source AND normal people :P every single day, I can tell you without a single inch of sarcasm that petting egos is one of the ways you get things done in the open source (and really any male dominated) community.
To me that's a bit over the top stereotyping.
+1
Having been mentioned one or two times myself - it was an unexpected "wow - cool" rather than a grumpy/fragile "I must be noticed" thing. I think some folk have forgotten the underlying principle of the open source community - it is about freely giving - time or code etc. The "there must be something in it for me me me" meme is - well - the *other* world view.
However, doing crappy work and let's not be shy about it, there is NOTHING fun about reviewing someone else's code needs to have incentive.
FWIW, I don't agree with this at all. Reviewing code can be quite interesting - with the one constraint that the problem the patch solves needs to be somewhat interesting. The latter is what I think gets many of the more experienced reviewers - lots of the patches just solve stuff they don't care about.
Yeah, and also it helps if the patch addresses an area that you at least know *something* about - otherwise it is really hard to review in any useful way.
I'm trying to follow this thread as much as I could but I could've missed a part of it.
Merit/credits aside what would really help Postgres right now is a more streamlined/modern (the only words I could come up with) development process.
Using the mailing list for everything is alright, it works. But there is lot of tools that could be used along it: gerrit/gitlab/github/bitbucket/jira and other tools that do: pull requests, code review and bugs (or any combination of them).
That'd reduce friction for new contributors and further development. These tools are being used everywhere and I find hard to believe that PG can't benefit from any of them.
