Re: Optimizing away second VACUUM heap scan when only BRIN indexes on table - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Simon Riggs
Subject Re: Optimizing away second VACUUM heap scan when only BRIN indexes on table
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In response to Re: Optimizing away second VACUUM heap scan when only BRIN indexes on table  (Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>)
Responses Re: Optimizing away second VACUUM heap scan when only BRIN indexes on table  (Peter Geoghegan <pg@heroku.com>)
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On 21 December 2015 at 02:14, Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com> wrote:
Jim Nasby wrote:
> On 11/23/15 5:06 PM, Peter Geoghegan wrote:
> >I realize that the second scan performed by lazy_vacuum_heap() only
> >visits those pages known to contain dead tuples. However, the
> >experience of seeing problems with the random sampling of ANALYZE
> >makes me think that that might not be very helpful. There is no good
> >reason to think that there won't be a uniform distribution of dead
> >tuples across the heap, and so only visiting pages known to contain
> >dead tuples might be surprisingly little help even when there are
> >relatively few VACUUM-able tuples in the table.
>
> Even worse is if you can't fit all the dead TIDs in memory and have to do
> multiple passes for no reason...

Since BRIN indexes cannot be primary keys nor unique keys, it's hard to
be convinced that the use case of a table with only BRIN indexes is
terribly interesting.

Given BRIN's characteristics, such a table design is compelling when the table is very large, yet possible only for certain use cases. 

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