Re: WIP/PoC for parallel backup - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Ibrar Ahmed
Subject Re: WIP/PoC for parallel backup
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In response to Re: WIP/PoC for parallel backup  (Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>)
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On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 6:06 PM Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 8:48 AM Asif Rehman <asifr.rehman@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sure. Though the backup manifest patch calculates and includes the checksum of backup files and is done
> while the file is being transferred to the frontend-end. The manifest file itself is copied at the
> very end of the backup. In parallel backup, I need the list of filenames before file contents are transferred, in
> order to divide them into multiple workers. For that, the manifest file has to be available when START_BACKUP
>  is called.
>
> That means, backup manifest should support its creation while excluding the checksum during START_BACKUP().
> I also need the directory information as well for two reasons:
>
> - In plain format, base path has to exist before we can write the file. we can extract the base path from the file
> but doing that for all files does not seem a good idea.
> - base backup does not include the content of some directories but those directories although empty, are still
> expected in PGDATA.
>
> I can make these changes part of parallel backup (which would be on top of backup manifest patch) or
> these changes can be done as part of manifest patch and then parallel can use them.
>
> Robert what do you suggest?

I think we should probably not use backup manifests here, actually. I
initially thought that would be a good idea, but after further thought
it seems like it just complicates the code to no real benefit.  I
suggest that the START_BACKUP command just return a result set, like a
query, with perhaps four columns: file name, file type ('d' for
directory or 'f' for file), file size, file mtime. pg_basebackup will
ignore the mtime, but some other tools might find that useful
information.

I wonder if we should also split START_BACKUP (which should enter
non-exclusive backup mode) from GET_FILE_LIST, in case some other
client program wants to use one of those but not the other.  I think
that's probably a good idea, but not sure.

I still think that the files should be requested one at a time, not a
huge long list in a single command.

What about have an API to get the single file or list of files? We will use a single file in
our application and other tools can get the benefit of list of files.  

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Robert Haas
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