On Sat, Jan 27, 2024 at 1:04 AM Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com> wrote:
>
> All of these things are functionally equivalent -- the same thing is
> happening at the end. This is just a discussion about API style and how
> that will interact with hypothetical callers that don't exist today.
> And it can also be easily changed later, so we aren't stuck with
> whatever decision happens here.
I'll leave that up to you. I'm okay either ways - 1) ensure the caller
doesn't use XLogReadFromBuffers, 2) XLogReadFromBuffers returning
as-if nothing was read when in recovery or on a different timeline.
> > Imagine, implementing an extension (may be for fun or learning or
> > educational or production purposes) to read unflushed WAL directly
> > from WAL buffers using XLogReadFromBuffers as page_read callback with
> > xlogreader facility.
>
> That makes sense, I didn't realize you intended to use this fron an
> extension. I'm fine considering that as a separate patch that could
> potentially be committed soon after this one.
Yes, I've turned that into 0002 patch.
> I'd like some more details, but can I please just commit the basic
> functionality now-ish?
+1.
> > Tried to keep wal_writer quiet with wal_writer_delay=10000ms and
> > wal_writer_flush_after = 1GB to not to flush WAL in the background.
> > Also, disabled autovacuum, and set checkpoint_timeout to a higher
> > value. All of this is done to generate minimal WAL so that WAL
> > buffers
> > don't get overwritten. Do you see any problems with it?
>
> Maybe check it against pg_current_wal_lsn(), and see if the Write
> pointer moved ahead? Perhaps even have a (limited) loop that tries
> again to catch it at the right time?
Adding a loop seems to be reasonable here and done in v21-0003. Also,
I've added wal_level = minimal per
src/test/recovery/t/039_end_of_wal.pl introduced by commit bae868caf22
which also tries to keep WAL activity to minimum.
> > Can the WAL summarizer ever read the WAL on current TLI? I'm not so
> > sure about it, I haven't explored it in detail.
>
> Let's just not call XLogReadFromBuffers from there.
Removed.
PSA v21 patch set.
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