On Thursday, October 19, 2023, Laurenz Albe <
laurenz.albe@cybertec.at> wrote:
On Thu, 2023-10-19 at 14:07 +0200, Dennis Brouwer wrote:
> Hibernate is a widely used framework and this library will compose queries
> (under certain conditions (still unknown to me))
> with GROUP BY coulmn1, column2, true <--
>
> Hibernate has been doing this quircky thing for many many years and even
> in the latest release does so. So, potentionally many Java Enterprise
> applications will be tied to postgresql-14 if there is no compatibility
> switch possible.
>
> In our case a tiny compatability switch would be a livesaver. Of courcse,
> I will try to convince the Hibernate community to have this unnecessary
> constant removed but that still leaves all legacy code to not work with
> postgresql-15+ databases which would be pitiful!
I understand your pain.
But according to my reading of the SQL standard, it only allows for
regular column references in GROUP BY. Unless I got something wrong,
that would mean the the ball is in Hibernate's court. It ought to
produce correct SQL.
My takeaway is that if Hibernate is able to produce this and get away with it in the various jdbc drivers it needs to work with then our existing choice to extend beyond the standard seems justified as others must be doing it as well. Introducing a regression now on the basis of standard conformance is just going to harm our reputation with minimal benefit, all seemingly accrued by developers, not users.
David J.
