On Thu, May 3, 2018 at 12:01 PM, Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 4:43 PM, Merlin Moncure <mmoncure@gmail.com> wrote:
>> What _I_ (maybe not others) want is a
>> faster pgbouncer that is integrated into the database; IMO it does
>> everything exactly right.
>
> I have to admit that I find that an amazing statement. Not that
> pgbouncer is bad technology, but saying that it does everything
> exactly right seems like a vast overstatement. That's like saying
> that you don't want running water in your house, just a faster motor
> for the bucket you use to draw water from the well.
Well you certainly have a point there; I do have a strong tendency for
overstatement :-).
Let's put it like this: being able to have connections funnel down to
a smaller number of sessions is nice feature. Applications that are
large, complex, or super high volume have a tendency towards stateless
(with respect to the database session) architecture anyways so I tend
not to mind lack of session features when pooling (prepared statements
perhaps being the big outlier here). It really opens up a lot of
scaling avenues. So better a better phrased statement might be, "I
like the way pgbouncer works, in particular transaction mode pooling
from the perspective of the applications using it". Current main pain
points are the previously mentioned administrative headaches and
better performance from a different architecture (pthreads vs libev)
would be nice.
I'm a little skeptical that we're on the right path if we are pushing
a lot of memory consumption into the session level where a session is
pinned all the way back to a client connection. plpgsql function plan
caches can be particularly hungry on memory and since sessions have
their own GUC ISTM each sessions has to have their own set of them
since plans depend on search path GUC which is session specific.
Previous discussions on managing cache memory consumption (I do dimly
recall you making a proposal on that very thing) centrally haven't
gone past panning stages AFAIK.
If we are breaking 1:1 backend:session relationship, what controls
would we have to manage resource consumption?
merlin
