Re: Two proposed modifications to the PostgreSQL FDW - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 5:36 PM Chris Travers <chris.travers@adjust.com> wrote:
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> On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 8:42 AM Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 1:47 AM Chris Travers <chris.travers@adjust.com> wrote:
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>> > On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 4:41 PM Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de> wrote:
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>> >> Hi,
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>> >> On 2018-08-20 16:28:01 +0200, Chris Travers wrote:
>> >> > 2.  TWOPHASECOMMIT=[off|on] option
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>> >> > The second major issue that I see with PostgreSQL's foreign database
>> >> > wrappers is the fact that there is no two phase commit which means that a
>> >> > single transaction writing to a group of tables has no expectation that all
>> >> > backends will commit or rollback together.  With this patch an option would
>> >> > be applied to foreign tables such that they could be set to use two phase
>> >> > commit  When this is done, the first write to each backend would register a
>> >> > connection with a global transaction handler and a pre-commit and commit
>> >> > hooks would be set up to properly process these.
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>> >> > On recommit a per-global-transaction file would be opened in the data
>> >> > directory and prepare statements logged to the file.  On error, we simply
>> >> > roll back our local transaction.
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>> >> > On commit hook , we go through and start to commit the remote global
>> >> > transactions.  At this point we make a best effort but track whether or not
>> >> > we were successfully on all.  If successful on all, we delete the file.  If
>> >> > unsuccessful we fire a background worker which re-reads the file and is
>> >> > responsible for cleanup.  If global transactions persist, a SQL
>> >> > administration function will be made available to restart the cleanup
>> >> > process.  On rollback, we do like commit but we roll back all transactions
>> >> > in the set.  The file has enough information to determine whether we should
>> >> > be committing or rolling back on cleanup.
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>> >> > I would like to push these both for Pg 12.  Is there any feedback on the
>> >> > concepts and the problems first
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>> Thank you for the proposal. I agree that it's a major problem that
>> postgres_fdw (or PostgreSQL core API) doesn't support two-phase
>> commit.
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>> >> There's been *substantial* work on this. You should at least read the
>> >> discussion & coordinate with the relevant developers.
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>> > I suppose I should forward this to them directly also.
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>> > Yeah.   Also the transaction manager code for this I wrote while helping with a proof of concept for this
copy-to-remoteextension. 
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>> > There are a few big differences in implementation with the patches you mention and the disagreement was part of
whyI thought about going this direction. 
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>> > First, discussion of differences in implementation:
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>> > 1.  I treat the local and remote transactions symmetrically and I make no assumptions about what might happen
betweenprepare and an attempted local commit. 
>> >    prepare goes into the precommit hook
>> >    commit goes into the commit hook and we never raise errors if it fails (because you cannot rollback at that
point). Instead a warning is raised and cleanup commences. 
>> >    rollback goes into the rollback hook and we never raise errors if it fails (because you are already rolling
back).
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>> > 2.  By treating this as a property of a table rather than a property of a foreign data wrapper or a server, we can
betterprevent prepared transactions where they have not been enabled. 
>> >    This also ensures that we know whether we are guaranteeing two phase commit or not by looking at the table.
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>> > 3.  By making this opt-in it avoids a lot of problems with regards to incorrect configuration etc since if the DBA
says"use two phase commit" and failed to enable prepared transactions on the other side... 
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>> > On to failure modes:
>> >  1.  Its possible that under high load too many foreign transactions are prepared and things start rolling back
insteadof committing.  Oh well.... 
>> >  2.  In the event that a foreign server goes away between prepare and commit, we continue to retry via the
backgroundworker.  The background worker is very pessimistic and checks every remote system for the named transaction. 
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>> If some participant servers fail during COMMIT PREPARED, will the
>> client get a "committed"? or an "aborted"? If the client gets
>> "aborted", that's not correct because the local changes are already
>> committed at that point.
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> Ok so let's discuss this in more detail here.
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> You have basically 6 states a TPC global transaction can be in.
> 1.  We haven't gotten to the point of trying to commit (BEGIN)
> 2.  We are trying to commit (PREPARE)
> 3.  We have committed to committing all transactions (COMMIT)
> 4.  We have committed to rolling back all transactions (ROLLBACK)
> 5.  We have successfully committed OR rolled back all transactions (COMPLETE)
> 6.  We tried to commit or rollback all transactions and got some errors (INCOMPLETE)
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> During COMMIT PREPARED we cannot raise errors to PostgreSQL.  We have already committed to committing and therefore
theonly way forward is to fix the problem. 

Agreed. I wrote the case where the client gets an "aborted" but it
should not happen.

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>> On the other hand, if the client get
>> "committed" it might break the current user semantics because the
>> subsequent reads may not be able to see the own committed writes.
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> Actually it is worse than that and this is why automatic attempted recovery is an absolute requirement.  If you
cannotcommit prepared, then you have a prepared statement that is stuck on the remote side.  This sets auto vacuum
horizonsand some other nastiness.  So we have to note, move on, and try to fix. 

Yeah, in my patch the background worker will continue to try to fix if occur.

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> Moreover since COMMIT PREPARED occurs during the commit hook, not the precommit hook, it is too late to roll back the
localtransaction.  We cannot raise errors since this causes a conflict in the commit status of the local transaction.
Sowhen we commit the local transaction we commit to committing all prepared transactions as soon as possible.  Note
somechanges need to be made to make this usable in the FDW context, so what I am hoping is that the dialog helps impact
thediscussion and options going forward. 
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>> since we don't want to wait for COMMIT PREPARED to complete we need to
>> consider that users could cancel the query anytime. To not break the
>> current semantics we cannot raise error during 2nd phase of two-phase
>> commit but it's not realistic because even the palloc() can raise an
>> error.
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> We don't palloc.  All memory used here is on the stack.  I do allow for dramatic precondition checks to cause errors
butthose should never happen absent some other programmer doing something dramatically unsafe anyway.  For example if
youtry to double-commit a transaction set..... 

Sorry, palloc() is just an example. I'm not sure all FDWs can
implement all callbacks for two-phase commit without codes that could
emit errors.

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> There is a possible of system errors if one can no longer write to the file log but at this point as long as we have
loggedthe phase change to commit we are able to recover later. 
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> So in the event where one sees an error here one continues on to the next transaction in the global transaction set
andtries to commit it, etc. until it runs through the entire set of prepared transactions.  Then if there were any
errorsit fires off a background worker which re-reads the log file and goes out to the various foreign servers, checks
tosee if there is a prepared transaction, and if so commits it.  If the transaction set state was in rollback, it tries
toroll it back instead.  If this errors,, it sleeps for a second and then loops through those which errored and retries
untilall are complete. 

Yeah, the patch has the similar functionality.

> The other thing is we record whether we are committing or rolling back the transaction when we hit the commit or
rollbackhook.   This is critical because we can imagine a world where the Oracle FDW supports similar semantics.  In
thatcase everything works and is not ordering dependent.  I.e. we can prepare our transactions.  Oracle can try and
fail,and rollback, and we rollback all the transactions everywhere.  And all we have to know was we got to the
precommithook and then we rolled back. 

In my patch the global transaction manager manages each status of
foreign servers participating in global transactions with WAL logging.
The fate of transaction on foreign server will be determined according
to the state of local transaction and their status. WAL logging is
important because not only in term of speedup but also supporting
streaming replication.

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>> The design the patch chose is making backends do only PREPARE and wait
>> for the background worker to complete COMMIT PREPARED. In this design
>> the clients get a "committed" only either when successful in commit on
>> all participants or when they cancel the query explicitly. In other
>> words, the client will wait for completion of 2nd phase of two-phase
>> commit forever unless it cancels.
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> In this approach we make a best effort to commit or rollback (as appropriate in the state of the global transaction)
*all*remote transactions during global commit or global rollback.  It is not guaranteed but it avoids breaking
semanticsas much as we can.  Also the background worker here does not need to attach to shared memory since the log has
everythingrequired.   COMMIT PREPARED ought to be a fast operation unless there are network problems but those can
affectprepare as well. 
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> Also imagine a case where you are writing to three dbs.  One is on Oracle, one on DB2, and one on PostgreSQL  You
successfullyprepare your transaction.  DB2 successfully prepares, and then the Oracle db errors for some reason (maybe
adeferred constraint).  Does the background worker have enough information to know to roll back your transaction on the
remoteside? 

I think that what the background worker needs to know to rollback
remote transactions are how to rollback and what to rollback. How to
rollback is defined in each FDWs. The state of each global
transactions is stored on GTM's shared memory and transaction
identifiers of each foreign server are associated with its global
transaction identifier the background worker can find out the
transaction identifier of foreign server side to rollback by looking
such information.

Regards,

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Masahiko Sawada
NIPPON TELEGRAPH AND TELEPHONE CORPORATION
NTT Open Source Software Center