Re: Transactions involving multiple postgres foreign servers - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 3:13 PM, Ashutosh Bapat
<ashutosh.bapat@enterprisedb.com> wrote:
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> On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 11:37 AM, Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
> wrote:
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>> On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 3:03 PM, Ashutosh Bapat
>> <ashutosh.bapat@enterprisedb.com> wrote:
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>> > On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 11:22 AM, Masahiko Sawada
>> > <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
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>> >> On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 1:32 PM, Vinayak Pokale <vinpokale@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > Hi All,
>> >> >
>> >> > Ashutosh proposed the feature 2PC for FDW for achieving atomic
>> >> > commits
>> >> > across multiple foreign servers.
>> >> > If a transaction make changes to more than two foreign servers the
>> >> > current
>> >> > implementation in postgres_fdw doesn't make sure that either all of
>> >> > them
>> >> > commit or all of them rollback their changes.
>> >> >
>> >> > We (Masahiko Sawada and me) reopen this thread and trying to
>> >> > contribute
>> >> > in
>> >> > it.
>> >> >
>> >> > 2PC for FDW
>> >> > ============
>> >> > The patch provides support for atomic commit for transactions
>> >> > involving
>> >> > foreign servers. when the transaction makes changes to foreign
>> >> > servers,
>> >> > either all the changes to all the foreign servers commit or rollback.
>> >> >
>> >> > The new patch 2PC for FDW include the following things:
>> >> > 1. The patch 0001 introduces a generic feature. All kinds of FDW that
>> >> > support 2PC such as oracle_fdw, mysql_fdw, postgres_fdw etc. can
>> >> > involve
>> >> > in
>> >> > the transaction.
>> >> >
>> >> > Currently we can push some conditions down to shard nodes, especially
>> >> > in
>> >> > 9.6
>> >> > the directly modify feature has
>> >> > been introduced. But such a transaction modifying data on shard node
>> >> > is
>> >> > not
>> >> > executed surely.
>> >> > Using 0002 patch, that modify is executed with 2PC. It means that we
>> >> > almost
>> >> > can provide sharding solution using
>> >> > multiple PostgreSQL server (one parent node and several shared node).
>> >> >
>> >> > For multi master, we definitely need transaction manager but
>> >> > transaction
>> >> > manager probably can use this 2PC for FDW feature to manage
>> >> > distributed
>> >> > transaction.
>> >> >
>> >> > 2. 0002 patch makes postgres_fdw possible to use 2PC.
>> >> >
>> >> > 0002 patch makes postgres_fdw to use below APIs. These APIs are
>> >> > generic
>> >> > features which can be used by all kinds of FDWs.
>> >> >
>> >> >     a. Execute PREAPRE TRANSACTION and COMMIT/ABORT PREAPRED instead
>> >> > of
>> >> > COMMIT/ABORT on foreign server which supports 2PC.
>> >> >     b. Manage information of foreign prepared transactions resolver
>> >> >
>> >> > Masahiko Sawada will post the patch.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
>> > Thanks Vinayak and Sawada-san for taking this forward and basing your
>> > work
>> > on my patch.
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Still lot of work to do but attached latest patches.
>> >> These are based on the patch Ashutosh posted before, I revised it and
>> >> divided into two patches.
>> >> Compare with original patch, patch of pg_fdw_xact_resolver and
>> >> documentation are lacked.
>> >
>> >
>> > I am not able to understand the last statement.
>>
>> Sorry to confuse you.
>>
>> > Do you mean to say that your patches do not have pg_fdw_xact_resolver()
>> > and
>> > documentation that my patches had?
>>
>> Yes.
>> I'm confirming them that your patches had.
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>
> Thanks for the clarification. I had added pg_fdw_xact_resolver() to resolve
> any transactions which can not be resolved immediately after they were
> prepared. There was a comment from Kevin (IIRC) that leaving transactions
> unresolved on the foreign server keeps the resources locked on those
> servers. That's not a very good situation. And nobody but the initiating
> server can resolve those. That functionality is important to make it a
> complete 2PC solution. So, please consider it to be included in your first
> set of patches.
>

Yeah, I know the reason why pg_fdw_xact_resolver is required.
I will add it as a separated patch.

Regards,

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Masahiko Sawada