Re: [HACKERS] Simplify ACL handling for large objects and removal ofsuperuser() checks - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Michael Paquier
Subject Re: [HACKERS] Simplify ACL handling for large objects and removal ofsuperuser() checks
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In response to Re: [HACKERS] Simplify ACL handling for large objects and removal of superuser() checks  (Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>)
Responses Re: [HACKERS] Simplify ACL handling for large objects and removal of superuser() checks  (Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>)
Re: [HACKERS] Simplify ACL handling for large objects and removal ofsuperuser() checks  (Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>)
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On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 10:00 AM, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:
> Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net> writes:
>> I'm guessing no, which essentially means that *we* consider access to
>> lo_import/lo_export to be equivilant to superuser and therefore we're
>> not going to implement anything to try and prevent the user who has
>> access to those functions from becoming superuser.  If we aren't willing
>> to do that, then how can we really say that there's some difference
>> between access to these functions and being a superuser?
>
> We seem to be talking past each other.  Yes, if a user has malicious
> intentions, it's possibly to parlay lo_export into obtaining a superuser
> login (I'm less sure that that's necessarily true for lo_import).
> That does NOT make it "equivalent", except perhaps in the view of someone
> who is only considering blocking malevolent actors.  It does not mean that
> there's no value in preventing a task that needs to run lo_export from
> being able to accidentally destroy any data in the database.  There's a
> range of situations where you are concerned about accidents and errors,
> not malicious intent; but your argument ignores those use-cases.

That will not sound much as a surprise as I spawned the original
thread, but like Robert I understand that getting rid of all superuser
checks is a goal that we are trying to reach to allow admins to have
more flexibility in handling permissions to a subset of objects.
Forcing an admin to give full superuser rights to one user willing to
work only on LOs import and export is a wrong concept.
-- 
Michael


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