Re: Unlogged vs. In-Memory - Mailing list pgsql-advocacy

From Thom Brown
Subject Re: Unlogged vs. In-Memory
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Msg-id BANLkTi=_YQec3=AvaFokY8ghcZ3h2oPHxw@mail.gmail.com
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In response to Unlogged vs. In-Memory  (Joshua Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>)
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On 3 May 2011 18:46, Joshua Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com> wrote:
> All,
>
> This has come up a couple times off-list, so I thought we should hammer it out here regarding messaging for 9.1.
>
> I was discussing the Unlogged Tables feature with an industry analyst.  He advised me fairly strongly that we should
callit, or at least describe it, as "in-memory tables".  While I'm not that sanguine about renaming the feature, I'm
happyto use marketing terms in descriptive text in a press release if it gets people interested. 
>
> Our basic issue with the cool features in 9.1 is the elevator pitch problem.  Try to describe SSI to a reporter in 20
secondsor less.  Unlogged tables suffers from this.  "What's an unlogged table? Why is *not* having something a
feature?" "long description here ..." "nevermind, I have enough." 
>
> Saying "It's like a in-memory table" is a lot more successful.  And it's using the term "in-memory" the same way a
lotof other DBMSes market it, i.e. in-memory == non-durable & no disk writes.  The important thing from my perspective
isthat unlogged tables give us the capabilities of a lot of the "in-memory" databases ... with unlogged tables and
fsyncoff, for example, PostgreSQL becomes a viable caching database. 
>
> When doing PR, it's more important to use terms people recognize than to use terms which are perfectly accurate.
 Nobodyexpects a news article to be perfectly accurate anyway. 
>
> However, I posted this because I think that several folks in the community feel that this is going too far into the
landof marketese, and I want to hash it out and get consensus before we start pitching 9.1 final. 

As far as I'm aware, an unlogged table is just a table which
sacrifices crash safety for speed.  It's not "in-memory" because that
suggests it's always kept in the physical memory, which isn't the
case.

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