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From Garner Chung
Subject Re: FW: postgres kerberos how to
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Responses Re: FW: postgres kerberos how to  (Derrick Stensrud <dstensrud@worleyco.com>)
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Nope, no Unix accounts are necessary besides the one that PG runs as. You do need the PG roles, however. Good luck!
 
garner


From: Derrick Stensrud [mailto:dstensrud@worleyco.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 10:36 AM
To: Garner Chung
Cc: pgsql-general@postgresql.org
Subject: Re: FW: [GENERAL] postgres kerberos how to

Great!  Thanks so much, I'm going to try to get this going right now.  Do I need unix user accounts?

Garner Chung wrote:
Hey, I think this made it to the list. But I had also CC:ed you
separately -- to which I got a bounce back. So here's my second attempt
to essentially CC: you.

garner 

-----Original Message-----
From: Garner Chung 
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 10:10 AM
To: 'pgsql-general@postgresql.org'
Cc: 'Derrick Stensrud '
Subject: RE: [GENERAL] postgres kerberos how to

Hey Derrick,

I work with Matt, and I was involved in our Kerberos implementation.
I'll try to answer your questions...

- You only need to make the mapping to an Active Directory(AD) user once
for that PG service. What that ktpass command does is map the principal
name for your PG service to an AD user. More importantly, with the
resulting keytab file you will establish the shared secret between the
service(PG) and the KDC(which is really a close partner if not subset of
AD). The secret is what AD will use to identify itself as a trustable
KDC to PG. So, no, you do not need to do that for every PG user.
However, you do need to create each database user in both AD and PG.
- +rndPass (which is not available in older versions of ktpass) will use
a random shared secret(password). There's no need for anyone to know
what the actual value of that pre shared key is. However it is very
important that the resulting keytab file is protected via filesystem
permissions.
-  * Yes that keytab file needs to be in /etc/krb5.keytab which is an
MIT library file location. I don't think PG will look at that file
directly. In fact, you specify separately in postgresql.conf where PG
should look for its keytab file. As far as we understand that
/etc/krb5.keytab file would contain multiple keytabs. If any MIT
Kerberos experts out there could chime, please do. ie. Would should the
permissions on that file be set to? To be clear, we got an error
message, which I never wrote down, without PG's keytab file not there
also.  * Yes, you also need to edit your /etc/krb5.conf file. You are
essentially telling the MIT Kerberos library that the default realm for
it is the AD realm/domain. You are also telling it where the KDC for
that realm is.  * You also need edit postgresql.conf where its keytab is.

Hope this helps, please do follow up with clarifying questions if you
have any. There is, IMHO, a paucity of good documentation on getting PG
to authenticate against AD using Kerberos.

garner


________________________________

From: Derrick Stensrud [mailto:dstensrud@worleyco.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 5:07 AM
To: Matt Burry
Cc: pgsql-general@postgresql.org
Subject: Re: [GENERAL] postgres kerberos how to


Thanks, I'm going to go ahead and try to implement postgresql kerberos
against active directory 2003 today.  I read a bit about it last night
and have a few questions.  

You wrote: "

* Map PG on database server as a user in Active Directory         o Create user account in AD for PG service 
         ie. 'postgres_fauxacacia' 
         o Make keytab file with AD PG user account. This will also map
the user to the service. 

ktpass princ postgres/FAUXACACIA@FAUX.COM -mapuser postgres_fauxacacia
+rndPass -out postgres_fauxacacia.keytab -target fauxsol -ptype
KRB5_NT_PRINCIPAL
"

Questions:
- If I have 10 users in postgresql do I need to run this ktpass program
for each user?  If so would I always keep the princ paramater listed as
"postgres/FAUXACACIA@FAUX.COM" <mailto:postgres/FAUXACACIA@FAUX.COM>
and do the capitals matter in this command?
- With this ktpass command, what is the +rndPass option?  I'm used to
seeing something like -pass P@ssWoRd
- After this keytab file is created, I copy it to /etc/krb5.keytab on
the linux box, and I edit my krb5.conf file to resemble yours listed.
Is there anything else that has to be done on the Windows or linux side?

Thanks for the help so far.




Matt Burry wrote: 
   
	From: pgsql-general-owner@postgresql.org 	[mailto:pgsql-general-owner@postgresql.org] On Behalf Of
Derrick	Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 5:52 PM	To: pgsql-general@postgresql.org	Subject: [GENERAL] postgres kerberos how to		I was wondering if anyone out there could point me in
the 	right direction.  I'm looking for a decent how to on
using 	postgresql's built in kerberos support to authenticate 	against windows 2003 active directory.  I was trying to
use 	pam_ldap, but had to give up and decide on using
kerberos 	instead.  Any help what so ever is much appreciated.  	Thanks.		    
Derrick,We've been setting it up in our shop and it's been a bit of a
bear. We're connecting to PG through the ODBC driver using both PG 8.1
and 8.2. Below are the steps we've taken to get it to work with a
Windows 2003 Domain Controller and Windows 2003 Server running Terminal
Services which serves the front end. We have had greater success with
Windows 2003 Server R2, though we have been able to get it to work with
Windows 2000 Server and Windows 2003 server. We also needed to use MIT's
Net ID manager.It would great if others could point to ways that we could
simplify these steps. I wasn't the one here who implemented things, so
one of my colleagues may need to followup if there are specific
questions. Additionally, we have not looked into the suggestion that
Magnus made that 8.2's LDAP support could help solve this problem of AD
integration from a slightly different direction.-MattKerberos Configuration Steps**************************PG Server=fauxacaciaActive Directory Domain=faux.comActive Directory Domain Controller=fauxsolWindows 2003 Server R2 (Terminal Services server, in our case,
used to serve our front end)=fauxsaturnOn Domain Controller: fauxsol(Windows 2003)    * Add entries to Domain Controller/DNS for all relevant
servers so that all principals can contact each other by name.192.168.4.26    fauxsol fauxsol.faux.com192.168.4.28    fauxacacia fauxacacia.faux.com192.168.4.29    fauxsaturn fauxsaturn.faux.comOn PG Server: fauxacacia(Linux)Samba    * Install Samba to facilitate copying of keytab file from
Windows Domain Controller NTP (Network Time Protocol to make sure that servers stay with
same time, required with Kerberos)    * Install package, ntpdate    * Edit '/etc/default/ntpdate' to point to the Windows Domain
Controller/KDC Server # servers to check.   (Separate multiple servers with spaces.)#NTPSERVERS="pool.ntp.org"#NTPSERVERS="ntp.ubuntu.com"NTPSERVERS="fauxsol"## additional options for ntpdate#NTPOPTIONS="-v"NTPOPTIONS="-u"    * Add an hourly cron entry, '/etc/cron.hourly/ntpdate', and
make it executable, 'chmod ugo+x /etc/cron.hourly/ntpdate' #!/bin/shNTPDATE=/usr/sbin/ntpdateNTPDEFAULTS=/etc/default/ntpdateNTPFALLBACK="ntp.ubuntu.com"if [ -f "$NTPDEFAULTS" ]; then        . $NTPDEFAULTS        test -n "$NTPSERVERS" || NTPSERVERS=$NTPFALLBACKelse        NTPSERVERS=$NTPFALLBACKfiif [ -x "$NTPDATE" ]; then        $NTPDATE -s $NTPOPTIONS $NTPSERVERSfi    * Restart cron, '/etc/init.d/cron restart' MIT Kerberos Library    * Install Kerberos Libraries          krb5-config, krb5-user     * Edit Kerberos config files ('/etc/krb5.conf') [libdefaults]        default_realm = [faux.com]        krb4_config = /etc/krb.conf        krb4_realms = /etc/krb.realms        kdc_timesync = 1        ccache_type = 4        forwardable = true        proxiable = true[realms]        FAUX.COM = {                kdc = [fauxsol]                admin_server = [fauxsol]        }DNS    * Edit DNS settings file ('/etc/resolv.conf') nameserver [ip address of DNS server 1]nameserver [ip address of DNS server 2]On Domain Controller: fauxsol (Windows 2003)    * Install Windows Supporting Tools (ktpass), found on
Windows installation CD as SUPPORT\TOOLS\SUPTOOLS.MSI    * Map PG on database server as a user in Active Directory          o Create user account in AD for PG service           ie. 'postgres_fauxacacia'           o Make keytab file with AD PG user account. This will
also map the user to the service. ktpass princ postgres/FAUXACACIA@FAUX.COM -mapuser
postgres_fauxacacia +rndPass -out postgres_fauxacacia.keytab -target
fauxsol -ptype KRB5_NT_PRINCIPAL[edit]On PG Server: fauxacacia (Linux)    * Move keytab file to PG Server (Linux).          '/usr/local/pgsql/etc/krb5.keytab' and
'/etc/krb5.keytab'     * Secure keytab files          o 'chown postgres:postgres
/usr/local/pgsql/etc/krb5.keytab'          o 'chmod ugo-wx /usr/local/pgsql/etc/krb5.keytab' -
Files created by samba have executable bit set for user.          o 'chmod go-r /usr/local/pgsql/etc/krb5.keytab'     * Configure PG to use '/usr/local/pgsql/etc/krb5.keytab' # Kerberoskrb_server_keyfile = '/usr/local/pgsql/etc/krb5.keytab'
# (change requires restart)#krb_srvname = 'postgres'               # (change requires
restart)#krb_server_hostname = ''               # empty string matches
any keytab entry                                        # (change requires
restart)#krb_caseins_users = off                # (change requires
restart)    * Restart PG [edit]On Front End Server: fauxsaturn (Windows 2003)    * Install MIT Kerberos For Windows          o Make sure that Net ID Manager is configured to start
when user logs in(default).     * Create 'C:\Program Files\MIT\Kerberos\bin\krb5.ini': [libdefaults]	default_realm =	FAUX.COM	kdc_timesync = 1	ccache_type = 4	ticket_lifetime = 36000[realms]	FAUX.COM = {		kdc = FAUXSOL		admin_server = FAUXSOL	}[appdefaults]	autologin = true	forward = true	forwardable = true	encrypt = true    * Delete all krb5_32.dll's other than the one in the
MIT\Kerberos\bin folder.          ie. 'C:\Program Files\psqlODBC\0802\bin' or
'C:\Program Files\pgAdmin III\1.6'           o This ensures that all client side PG Kerberos
authentication will occur via the just installed MIT Kerberos for
Windows package.          o The secondary, desired effect is that only the one
MIT\Kerberos\bin\krb5.ini file is used.          o NOTE: This is just for our Terminal Services
environment: If the krb5.ini file is placed in 'C:\Windows', then
Kerberos authentication will fail unless the session is in install
mode('change user /install'). This is because of the virtualized copy of
the C:\Windows directory that is created in a Terminal Services Session.
In particular, INI files are managed by a sync process between the
virtual/personal Windows directory and the real one. Entering install
mode points the user's session to the _real_ Windows directory.                + As long as there is the one 'C:\Program
Files\MIT\Kerberos\bin\krb5_32.dll' and the one 'C:\Program
Files\MIT\Kerberos\bin\krb5.ini', there 'change user /install' should
not be necesssary.   


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