Re: Can PostgreSQL create new WAL files instead of reusing old ones? - Mailing list pgsql-general
From | Fabio Ugo Venchiarutti |
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Subject | Re: Can PostgreSQL create new WAL files instead of reusing old ones? |
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Msg-id | 984c4678-6a10-7457-81e3-74b3be15efc1@ocado.com Whole thread Raw |
In response to | Re: Can PostgreSQL create new WAL files instead of reusing old ones? (Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>) |
List | pgsql-general |
I was wondering the same. The WAL writer is overwriting the same inodes again and again, so block COW logic should only happen once: at allocation. I'm no expert: does XFS track COW based on path (ugh?) Maybe I'm crazy but here's a possible workaround if the problem is effectively at that level: OP could use the archive_command to deliberately allocate a new segment and switch the old one with it before returning zero to the archiver. The WAL writer will then recycle what it thinks is the same inode and not your impostor. I'm rather confident this should work ok but you may want to make sure with the hackers that no file descriptors are open on a ready-to-archive segments while you shuffle things around in your command (or some other weird implication I'm missing). On 27/04/18 17:28, Bruce Momjian wrote: > On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 09:34:50AM -0400, Vick Khera wrote: >> On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 12:35 AM, Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz> wrote: >> >> >> That looks like a rather difficult problem to solve in PostgreSQL >> itself, as the operator running the cluster is in charge of setting up >> the FS options which would control the COW behavior, so it seems to me >> >> >> You cannot turn off CoW on ZFS. What other behavior would you refer to here? >> >> I suppose one could make a dedicated data set for the WAL and have ZFS make a >> reservation for about 2x the total expected WAL size. It would require careful >> attention to detail if you increase WAL segments configuration, though, and if >> you had any kind of hiccup with streaming replication that caused the segments >> to stick around longer than expected (but that's no different from any other >> file system). > > Uh, at the risk of asking an obvious question, why is the WAL file COW > if it was renamed? No one has the old WAL file open, as far as I know. > -- Regards Fabio Ugo Venchiarutti Data Services Department Ocado Technology -- Notice: This email is confidential and may contain copyright material of members of the Ocado Group. Opinions and views expressed in this message may not necessarily reflect the opinions and views of the members of the Ocado Group. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately and delete all copies of this message. Please note that it is your responsibility to scan this message for viruses. Fetch and Sizzle are trading names of Speciality Stores Limited and Fabled is a trading name of Marie Claire Beauty Limited, both members of the Ocado Group. References to the “Ocado Group” are to Ocado Group plc (registered in England and Wales with number 7098618) and its subsidiary undertakings (as that expression is defined in the Companies Act 2006) from time to time. The registered office of Ocado Group plc is Buildings One & Two, Trident Place, Mosquito Way, Hatfield, Hertfordshire, AL10 9UL.
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