Re: psql questions: SQL, progname, copyright dates - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Greg Sabino Mullane
Subject Re: psql questions: SQL, progname, copyright dates
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In response to Re: psql questions: SQL, progname, copyright dates  (Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>)
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> Agreed it would be nice to more clearly distingush user functions from
> system ones, but how?  I can't see how 'S' is going to help us because
> \dS already shows system tables.  Would it be \dfS?  What is the logic
> to that?  Having 'S' be a flag and a command is too confusing.
Um...it is already there, in the form of \dtS and \diS. This would merely
elevate some of the lesser-used system objects (e.g. operators, domains)
to the same status as the more common ones (e.g. tables, sequences).
> And what about \dn.  Seems showing system schemas vs ordinary schemas
> would make sense too.  I wonder if just telling to people focus on the
> schema name is the best bet.
Yes, they fall in to my "no differentiation" pile and would not get a
'S' modifier. Simliarly with casts, tablespaces, users, etc.
> Another idea is to add a flag to skip system stuff like '-', so \df-
> doesn't show system stuff.  Same for the others.  That does make sense
> to me.  I know it isn't logical for \d but \d is for storage, while the
> others are different in that system tables aren't normally accessed by
> users, while system functions/schemas are.
The minus flag seems a little ugly to me, when we already have an
established way of differentiating between the two. Sure, people *access*
system functions, but having to look at them through \df seems to be
a fairly rare event, I would think. Far more likely they would want to
view their own functions.
To clarify the 'S' a bit more, here is the output from \? in my new patch:
Informational (S = show system objects) \l                list all databases (add "+" for more detail) \d[S]
list tables, views, and sequences \d[S] NAME        describe table, view, sequence, or index \dt[S] [PATTERN]  list
tables(add "+" for more detail) \dv[S] [PATTERN]  list views (add "+" for more detail) \ds[S] [PATTERN]  list sequences
(add"+" for more detail) \di[S] [PATTERN]  list indexes (add "+" for more detail) \df[S] [PATTERN]  list functions (add
"+"for more detail) \dD[S] [PATTERN]  list domains \do[S] [NAME]     list operators \da[S] [PATTERN]  list aggregate
functions\dT[S] [PATTERN]  list data types (add "+" for more detail) \dc[S] [PATTERN]  list conversions \db [PATTERN]
 list tablespaces (add "+" for more detail) \dC               list casts \dd [PATTERN]     list objects with comments
\dg[PATTERN]     list groups \dl               list large objects, same as \lo_list \dn [PATTERN]     list schemas (add
"+"for more detail) \dp [PATTERN]     list table, view and sequence access privileges \du [PATTERN]     list users
 
Note that the confusing "t|i|v|s|S" thing has been broken up, and
the "S" objects are grouped together.
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Greg Sabino Mullane greg@turnstep.com
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