Re: Stalled news about ora2pg 11 on pg.org - Mailing list pgsql-www
From | Stefan Kaltenbrunner |
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Subject | Re: Stalled news about ora2pg 11 on pg.org |
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Msg-id | 516DC1C4.5050808@kaltenbrunner.cc Whole thread Raw |
In response to | Re: Stalled news about ora2pg 11 on pg.org (Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>) |
List | pgsql-www |
On 04/16/2013 09:10 AM, Magnus Hagander wrote: > On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 12:58 AM, Jonathan S. Katz > <jonathan.katz@excoventures.com> wrote: >> On Apr 15, 2013, at 4:19 PM, Magnus Hagander wrote: >> >>> On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 10:10 PM, Alvaro Herrera >>> <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com> wrote: >>>> Magnus Hagander wrote: >>>>> On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 9:59 PM, Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> wrote: >>>>>> On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 12:52:54PM -0700, Josh Berkus wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2ndQuadrant has experienced significant delays in at least 3 cases >>>>>>>> also. There is definitely a problem somewhere there. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The delay is called "volunteer moderators who have day jobs". >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Perhaps we should make all posts wait the same length of time, to >>>>>>>> allow reasonable time to decide whether posts are suitable? 72 hours >>>>>>>> seems like a reasonable time for this. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Who is going to do this strictly time-limited approving? >>>>>> >>>>>> So it auto-approves after 72 hours? I found this proposal vague. >>>>> >>>>> If anything automatic were to happen after 72 hours, the reasonable >>>>> thing would be a rejection. >>>> >>>> ... but that's not more helpful than not doing anything, because then >>>> the submitter needs to submit again. This creates a busy loop on which >>>> submitter needs to watch status of his submitted news until it gets >>>> approved. >>> >>> I agree. But it's the only thing we could do at all there. >>> >>> >>>> I think the idea behind 72-hour auto-approve is that if it's obvious >>>> spam someone will quickly reject it, and if it's not spam then it's not >>>> worth rejecting. I don't think this is very palatable either. >>> >>> Given thta our moderators *clearly* don't have time to process it, >>> this is almost *guarantee* to get spam postings onto our site. It >>> won't work. >>> >>> I think recruiting more moderators, or somehow convincing our current >>> ones to actually moderate more often is the only way to go. >> >> If helping to alleviate some of the delay issues would be to have more moderators, I would be happy to volunteer my time. > > We can certainly do with more moderators. Unless there are any > objections, I think adding Jonathan would be a good idea? +1 > > > >> Perhaps another initiative (though this is a tech suggestion) is to send a daily digest of news stories awaiting approvalto the moderators so that way there is a constant reminder to review news items. > > This is something we already do, since many years back. yeah but the problem still is the same - most people do stuff in batches (ie on a quick train ride or in a break) so the same time they read the nagging mail the can just deal with the the real news item... Stefan