Re: pg_autovacuum next steps - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Matthew T. O'Connor
Subject Re: pg_autovacuum next steps
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Msg-id 405F7D9F.5040900@zeut.net
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In response to Re: pg_autovacuum next steps  (Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>)
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Tom Lane wrote:

>"Matthew T. O'Connor" <matthew@zeut.net> writes:
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>>I probably said that wrong, but how do backends get their stats data?  
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>They read it out of a flat file that the stats collector rewrites every
>so often.
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Ok so that would be easy to do (if we decide we want to)

>Is that really worth the loss of independence?  I'm not sure one way or
>the other myself.  I suppose the autovac daemon could still be run by
>hand for testing purposes, but it would have to run as user postgres and
>on the same machine as the postmaster.
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I'm not sure, it would allow autovacuum to check the stats more 
regularly.  I suppose it would be possible for pg_autovacuum to 
recognize if it's been launched by the postmaster or not and look up 
stats as appropriate, but as you say, I'm not sure it's worth it, and my 
first cut will work exactly as the current pg_autovacuum does.

>>Also, you didn't mention if I will be able to use the backend logging 
>>functions, I would guess that I can, but I'm not totally sure.
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>Yes, if you are launched by the postmaster then you'd have access to its
>stderr etc, so you could just log via elog/ereport.  Again though this
>puts you in a situation where the daemon *must* be launched by the
>postmaster or it won't work.  How much arm's-length separation are you
>willing to give up?
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Well I think I would be more willing to give up the separation for 
logging purposes.  I would think that an error message issued by a 
postmaster sub-process should wind up in the same location as an error 
issued by the postmaster proper.  Also, people have requested lots of 
logging options such as syslog etc and I think it would be nice to get 
all this for free.

I would think that pg_autovacuum could determine if it's a postmaster 
sub-process and log appropriately, does sound reasonable?






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