Re: Companies involved in development - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Hans-Jürgen Schönig
Subject Re: Companies involved in development
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Msg-id 3D5BC9F5.9030600@cybertec.at
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In response to Companies involved in development  (Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>)
Responses Re: Companies involved in development  (Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>)
Re: Companies involved in development  (Andrew Sullivan <andrew@libertyrms.info>)
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I think it would be a huge benefit for the community to have some more 
company-funding. This would lead to the implementation of some features 
people need urgently (replication in the core and so forth). On the 
other hand a better product makes even more developers work for 
PostgreSQL. We were thinking of funding the project as well and seems to 
be a good way of improving the product we make our living of. We have 
also tried to get some government funding we could invest into 
PostgreSQL but unfornately all we could get was EUR 10k which is some 
kind of ridiculous. We should have invested much more but it is just not 
possible at this point so we dropped the idea.
For a company PostgreSQL definitely is an interesting area to invest 
because it has proven to be a good product and there are just minor 
things (sync. replication - eg. Postgres-R) missing to make it a real 
enterprise database. The support of the community of more than just 
optimal and it is an interesting subject.
Talking about practical experience: Our customers love PostgreSQL. The 
only thing they miss is 24x7 availability due to a lack of hot-failover 
and replication. A way to tweak the optimizer better (some have SQL 
statements being 2 pages long).
We have done quite a lot of Oracle up to now but in many respects 
PostgreSQL seems to be the better product but in the case of 
availability we fail. The database never crashes but it is just to hard 
to make a cluster out of it - we have to do it on an application level 
and too many people worry about conistency if one node fails.

Also: It would be interesting to have a special section on the website 
where people can post that they need money to implement something really 
useful. I guess there'd be a lot of people who'd pay for replication or 
things like that if they knew more.
By the way; many people seem to think that PostgreSQL is GPL license. I 
know it is easy to find out what it means and that it is now that way 
but we should explain what BSD license REALLY means in just a few words. 
This may sound ridiculous but people just don't look for information.

All in all I think that there are ways to find people contributing 
financially to the project.
   Regards,       Hans-Jürgen Schönig


Bruce Momjian wrote:

>I think we are going to see more company-funded developers working on
>PostgreSQL.  There are a handful now, but I can see lots more coming.
>I am going to work on getting those funding companies more visibility. 
>We originally were concerned that such involvement may harm the
>development process, but history has shown that it has only been a huge
>benefit for the community.
>  
>


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