Re: Why are we PageInit'ing buffers in RelationAddExtraBlocks()? - Mailing list pgsql-hackers
From | Andres Freund |
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Subject | Re: Why are we PageInit'ing buffers in RelationAddExtraBlocks()? |
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Msg-id | 20190129202351.vqe45bjfbq3osgp6@alap3.anarazel.de Whole thread Raw |
In response to | Re: Why are we PageInit'ing buffers in RelationAddExtraBlocks()? (Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>) |
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Re: Why are we PageInit'ing buffers in RelationAddExtraBlocks()?
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List | pgsql-hackers |
On 2019-01-29 11:25:41 -0800, Andres Freund wrote: > On 2019-01-28 22:37:53 -0500, Tom Lane wrote: > > Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de> writes: > > > I did that now. I couldn't reproduce it locally, despite a lot of > > > runs. Looking at the buildfarm it looks like the failures were, > > > excluding handfish which failed without recognizable symptoms before and > > > after, on BSD derived platforms (netbsd, freebsd, OX), which certainly > > > is interesting. > > > > Isn't it now. Something about the BSD scheduler perhaps? But we've > > got four or five different BSD-ish platforms that reported failures, > > and it's hard to believe they've all got identical schedulers. > > > > That second handfish failure does match the symptoms elsewhere: > > > > https://buildfarm.postgresql.org/cgi-bin/show_log.pl?nm=handfish&dt=2019-01-29%2000%3A20%3A22 > > > > --- /home/filiperosset/dev/client-code-REL_8/HEAD/pgsql.build/src/interfaces/ecpg/test/expected/thread-thread.stderr 2018-10-3020:11:45.551967381 -0300 > > +++ /home/filiperosset/dev/client-code-REL_8/HEAD/pgsql.build/src/interfaces/ecpg/test/results/thread-thread.stderr 2019-01-28 22:38:20.614211568 -0200 > > @@ -0,0 +1,20 @@ > > +SQL error: page 0 of relation "test_thread" should be empty but is not on line 125 > > > > so it's not quite 100% BSD, but certainly the failure rate on BSD is > > way higher than elsewhere. Puzzling. > > Interesting. > > While chatting with Robert about this issue I came across the following > section of code: > > /* > * If the FSM knows nothing of the rel, try the last page before we > * give up and extend. This avoids one-tuple-per-page syndrome during > * bootstrapping or in a recently-started system. > */ > if (targetBlock == InvalidBlockNumber) > { > BlockNumber nblocks = RelationGetNumberOfBlocks(relation); > > if (nblocks > 0) > targetBlock = nblocks - 1; > } > > > I think that explains the issue (albeit not why it is much more frequent > on BSDs). Because we're not going through the FSM, it's perfectly > possible to find a page that is uninitialized, *and* is not yet in the > FSM. The only reason this wasn't previously actively broken, I think, is > that while we previously *also* looked that page (before the extending > backend acquired a lock!), when looking at the page > PageGetHeapFreeSpace(), via PageGetFreeSpace(), decides there's no free > space because it just interprets the zeroes in pd_upper - pd_lower as no > free space. > > Hm, thinking about what a good solution here could be. I wonder if we should just expand the logic we have for RBM_ZERO_AND_LOCK so it can be and use it in hio.c (we probably could just use it without any changes, but the name seems a bit confusing) - because that'd prevent the current weirdness that it's possible that the buffer can be locked by somebody between the ReadBufferBI(P_NEW) and and the LockBuffer(BUFFER_LOCK_EXCLUSIVE). I think that'd allow us to alltogether drop the cleanup lock logic we currently have, and also protect us against the FSM issue I'd outlined upthread? Greetings, Andres Freund
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