Re: Why are we PageInit'ing buffers in RelationAddExtraBlocks()? - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Andres Freund
Subject Re: Why are we PageInit'ing buffers in RelationAddExtraBlocks()?
Date
Msg-id 20190129192541.pxs5f5w5mxojnny2@alap3.anarazel.de
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In response to Re: Why are we PageInit'ing buffers in RelationAddExtraBlocks()?  (Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>)
Responses Re: Why are we PageInit'ing buffers in RelationAddExtraBlocks()?  (Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>)
Re: Why are we PageInit'ing buffers in RelationAddExtraBlocks()?  (Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>)
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On 2019-01-28 22:37:53 -0500, Tom Lane wrote:
> Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de> writes:
> > I did that now. I couldn't reproduce it locally, despite a lot of
> > runs. Looking at the buildfarm it looks like the failures were,
> > excluding handfish which failed without recognizable symptoms before and
> > after, on BSD derived platforms (netbsd, freebsd, OX), which certainly
> > is interesting.
> 
> Isn't it now.  Something about the BSD scheduler perhaps?  But we've
> got four or five different BSD-ish platforms that reported failures,
> and it's hard to believe they've all got identical schedulers.
> 
> That second handfish failure does match the symptoms elsewhere:
> 
> https://buildfarm.postgresql.org/cgi-bin/show_log.pl?nm=handfish&dt=2019-01-29%2000%3A20%3A22
> 
> --- /home/filiperosset/dev/client-code-REL_8/HEAD/pgsql.build/src/interfaces/ecpg/test/expected/thread-thread.stderr
 2018-10-30 20:11:45.551967381 -0300
 
> +++ /home/filiperosset/dev/client-code-REL_8/HEAD/pgsql.build/src/interfaces/ecpg/test/results/thread-thread.stderr
2019-01-28 22:38:20.614211568 -0200
 
> @@ -0,0 +1,20 @@
> +SQL error: page 0 of relation "test_thread" should be empty but is not on line 125
> 
> so it's not quite 100% BSD, but certainly the failure rate on BSD is
> way higher than elsewhere.  Puzzling.

Interesting.

While chatting with Robert about this issue I came across the following
section of code:

        /*
         * If the FSM knows nothing of the rel, try the last page before we
         * give up and extend.  This avoids one-tuple-per-page syndrome during
         * bootstrapping or in a recently-started system.
         */
        if (targetBlock == InvalidBlockNumber)
        {
            BlockNumber nblocks = RelationGetNumberOfBlocks(relation);

            if (nblocks > 0)
                targetBlock = nblocks - 1;
        }


I think that explains the issue (albeit not why it is much more frequent
on BSDs).  Because we're not going through the FSM, it's perfectly
possible to find a page that is uninitialized, *and* is not yet in the
FSM. The only reason this wasn't previously actively broken, I think, is
that while we previously *also* looked that page (before the extending
backend acquired a lock!), when looking at the page
PageGetHeapFreeSpace(), via PageGetFreeSpace(), decides there's no free
space because it just interprets the zeroes in pd_upper - pd_lower as no
free space.

Hm, thinking about what a good solution here could be.

Greetings,

Andres Freund


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