Re: Oracle to buy Sun - Mailing list pgsql-advocacy

On Monday 20 April 2009 7:29:48 am Scott Mead wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 10:11 AM, Gabriele Bartolini <
>
> gabriele.bartolini@2ndquadrant.it> wrote:
> > Scott Mead ha scritto:
> >> I would tend to disagree that it will die.  The recent new release of
> >> innodb (
> >> http://www.innodb.com/wp/2009/03/11/innodb-plugin-version-103-for-mysql-
> >>5130-32-33-released/) suggests that Oracle is not really interested in
> >> letting mysql die completely.
> >
> > Yep, I agree. I think however that they will somehow change MySQL plans
> > and give lower priority (if not abandon) the enterprise class features
> > and target. There is no advantage in creating self-competition, so they
> > will inevitably diversify. After all, they can now choose between Oracle
> > for an enterprise class audience, and MySQL for different target
> > audiences.
>
>   If I were Larry (My yacht only comes in at a measly 4 feet and requires
> oars :-) , I would make mysql strong enough to play hard in the Open Source
> market and maybe even take-out some low-end sqlserver instances with a
> 'next->next->finish' process to Oracle enterprise.
>
>    Mysql's biggest problem is that small departmental apps tend to outgrow
> it.  If you could have those same open-source peeps developing their apps
> against mysql and there is an auto-upgrade path to Oracle enterprise....
> then Larry effectively owns the high-end "big IT" market and the low-end "I
> wrote this b/c I was bored" market.  Then again, Sun did do a pretty good
> job of alienating all but a small handful of mysql AB coders, there may
> already be enough damage there that mysql's coffin is already being
> lowered.
>
> > On top of this, they will also have top class hardware they can count on.
>
>     I think that's the big picture here:
>
>      "Nobody ever got fired for buying Oracle"
>
>    We know that they've got a solid DB product
>    They've bought most of the enterprise apps market
>    They're hijacking RHEL installs with their own linux distro
>    They want to play in the hardware market (
> http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-10050379-92.html) at the high end
>    Why not breath some life into a hardware company that is well known in
> mid to large IT shops?
>
>     For customers, it's a 'single-stop-shop' if you're wallet is deep
> enough
>
> :-)   That's the biggest problem with all of this;  You'll be able to buy a
>
> single box pre-installed with peoplesoft, but you would end up paying
> through the nose for it.
>
>
> --Scott


What the heck, here is my 2 cents.

Oracle buying Sun means:
Keep Solaris because they have always wanted an OS to call their own
Keep Java because a lot of their existing customers use it.
Outside chance they hang on to OpenOffice because there is no love lost between
Oracle and Microsoft and anything Larry Ellison can do to needle MS is gravy.
Sell off the hardware division because if there was money in it Sun would have
not been up for sale.
Everything else is toast.
Number one activity at Sun for the immediate future is resume updating.


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Adrian Klaver
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