Re: FOSDEM 2008 - Devroom and booth

From: Robert Bernier
Subject: Re: FOSDEM 2008 - Devroom and booth
Date: ,
Msg-id: 200711301423.32866.robert.bernier5@sympatico.ca
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In response to: Re: FOSDEM 2008 - Devroom and booth  (David Fetter)
Responses: Re: FOSDEM 2008 - Devroom and booth  ("Joshua D. Drake")
Re: FOSDEM 2008 - Devroom and booth  (Josh Berkus)
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FOSDEM 2008 - Devroom and booth  (Andreas 'ads' Scherbaum, )
 Re: FOSDEM 2008 - Devroom and booth  (Robert Bernier, )
  Re: FOSDEM 2008 - Devroom and booth  (David Fetter, )
   Re: FOSDEM 2008 - Devroom and booth  (Robert Bernier, )
    Re: FOSDEM 2008 - Devroom and booth  (David Fetter, )
     Re: FOSDEM 2008 - Devroom and booth  (Robert Bernier, )
      Re: FOSDEM 2008 - Devroom and booth  (Euler Taveira de Oliveira, )
       Re: FOSDEM 2008 - Devroom and booth  (Robert Bernier, )
        Re: FOSDEM 2008 - Devroom and booth  (Josh Berkus, )
         Re: FOSDEM 2008 - Devroom and booth  (David Fetter, )
          Re: FOSDEM 2008 - Devroom and booth  ("Selena Deckelmann", )
           Re: FOSDEM 2008 - Devroom and booth  ("Joshua D. Drake", )
            Re: FOSDEM 2008 - Devroom and booth  (Alvaro Herrera <-ip.org>, )
             Re: FOSDEM 2008 - Devroom and booth  ("Joshua D. Drake", )
          Re: FOSDEM 2008 - Devroom and booth  (Robert Bernier, )
           Re: FOSDEM 2008 - Devroom and booth  ("Joshua D. Drake", )
           Re: FOSDEM 2008 - Devroom and booth  (Josh Berkus, )
          Re: FOSDEM 2008 - Devroom and booth  (Euler Taveira de Oliveira, )
  Re: FOSDEM 2008 - Devroom and booth  (Andreas 'ads' Scherbaum, )
 Re: FOSDEM 2008 - Devroom and booth  ("Gevik Babakhani", )
 Re: FOSDEM 2008 - Devroom and booth  (Gregory Stark, )
  Re: FOSDEM 2008 - Devroom and booth  (Robert Treat, )
   Re: FOSDEM 2008 - Devroom and booth  (Andreas 'ads' Scherbaum, )
    Re: FOSDEM 2008 - Devroom and booth  (Magnus Hagander, )
     Re: FOSDEM 2008 - Devroom and booth  (Andreas 'ads' Scherbaum, )
  Re: FOSDEM 2008 - Devroom and booth  ("Guido Barosio", )
   Re: FOSDEM 2008 - Devroom and booth  (Andreas 'ads' Scherbaum, )
    Re: FOSDEM 2008 - Devroom and booth  ("Guido Barosio", )
     Re: FOSDEM 2008 - Devroom and booth  (Andreas 'ads' Scherbaum, )
      Re: FOSDEM 2008 - Devroom and booth  (Tatsuo Ishii, )
       Re: FOSDEM 2008 - Devroom and booth  (Peter Eisentraut, )
       Re: FOSDEM 2008 - Devroom and booth  (Magnus Hagander, )
        Re: FOSDEM 2008 - Devroom and booth  (Andreas 'ads' Scherbaum, )
         Re: FOSDEM 2008 - Devroom and booth  (Tatsuo Ishii, )

On Friday 30 November 2007 13:58, David Fetter wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 30, 2007 at 09:26:59AM -0800, Josh Berkus wrote:
> > > I've never tried. The ISO is almost 700mb in size. Is pgfoundry
> > > the right place for something this large?
> >
> > No, 'cause pgfoundry uses HTTP upload.  We'd need to have some other
> > way to upload & download the files.  Marc?
>
> The standard way to distribute large files is Bittorrent, and I
> believe Magnus knows the most about this :)

I remember when Marc put the first version of pg_live on bit-torrent. Back
then I had used damn small linux to keep it small i.e. 235mb. The thing about
bit-torrent is that it would still require pg_live to have at least one
active connection which means a server would need to run it. Where would it
reside?

> However, wouldn't there be some fairly short script which would let
> someone construct their own LiveCD?

I woul need to create the following 3 scripts:
-  script one
   - copy an existing xubuntu ISO to the developer's hard-drive
   - initialize a development environment for this ISO
   - ensure the proper packages on the developer machine are present (which
      distro?)
- script two
   - to edit / remove / add the base packages for a default pg_live ISO
- script three
   - compile and copy postgres on the developer's default OS over to pg_live
     which incorporates all the necesary libaries for the various procedural
     languages that pg_live uses.

Finally, I would need to automate the process of adding pg_live specific
documentation.

As you can see, creating the necesary script is a major undertaking. But
you're right, if this existed it would sure make life easier for all parties
concerned.

> While on the subject of LiveCDs--CDs and DVDs in general, come to
> think of it--I've noticed that the vast majority of people at trade
> shows stuff such things into their goodie bag and then throw them out
> unopened.

I sure hope you're not seeing this happen with the CD. I pour my heart into
making an ISO from scratch :-(
(but not so bad when I'm just upgrading postgres).


regards

Robert


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