Re: EnterpriseDB Postgres - Mailing list pgsql-advocacy

I appreciate Derek's candor in talking about why the press release was
structured the way it was.

This brings up something I have realized recently.  There is no question
in my mind that EnterprseDB's many mentions of PostgreSQL in their press
releases has greatly helped PostgreSQL to become more visible.  Not that
this wouldn't have happened on its own, but with EnterpriseDB's help, it
has happened faster.

The other good news is that we are getting better at PR ourselves, and I
think more companies are willing to help us do PR, so we are moving into
a phase where we aren't as "off in our own corner" as we were before.

Can we get Tom Lane on the cover of ComputerWorld?  ;-)

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Derek Rodner wrote:
> Peter, Lukas, et al,
>
> What I would like to convey to the community is that this release is not
> targeted at you.  You are already Postgres experts.  You all already
> know how this works and have intimate knowledge of all of the contrib
> modules and add-ons.  You are the experts.
>
> This release is designed for the developer who has never used PostgreSQL
> before. He may have heard of it and how it is better than MySQL.  But,
> in the past, he has opted for MySQL because it is a simple download and
> ready
> for deployment in his eyes.  This release is intended for those folks.
> For example, take a look at ohloh.net.  MySQL is the 5th highest rated
> project.  PostgreSQL is rated much lower.  Don't we want that to be
> reversed?  In my entire life, I have always been the underdog and I
> thrive on that.  My college basketball team is always the underdog.
> EnterpriseDB is the underdog to Oracle.  Postgres is the underdog to
> MySQL.  I am starting to get sick of that and want Postgres to stop
> being the underdog.  We know we are better than MySQL.  Most of the
> world knows we are better than MySQL.  We are tying to bring Postgres to
> the masses so they can really understand it.
>
> Anyone who is already familiar with Postgres or any real DBA is going to
> build it himself from the Postgres community and he will be able to do
> it quickly.
>
> While the wording of the press release is cause for concern in the
> community because of "first-ever" and "professional grade", we need to
> do this for marketing purposes.  If we had said "EnterpriseDB releases
> yet another PostgreSQL distribution" then no one would cover it.
>
> We are trying to help PostgreSQL, and in turn, help ourselves.  I would
> be interested to see how the hits on www.postgresql.org and
> www.slony.info, etc. increased since this announcement.
>
>
> Derek M. Rodner
> Director, Product Strategy
> EnterpriseDB Corporation
> 732.331.1333 office
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> www.enterprisedb.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pgsql-advocacy-owner@postgresql.org
> [mailto:pgsql-advocacy-owner@postgresql.org] On Behalf Of Peter
> Eisentraut
> Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 8:36 AM
> To: pgsql-advocacy@postgresql.org
> Cc: Lukas Kahwe Smith
> Subject: Re: [pgsql-advocacy] EnterpriseDB Postgres
>
> Am Mittwoch, 8. August 2007 17:14 schrieb Lukas Kahwe Smith:
> > I read about EnterpriseDB PostGres [1] today. Guess since its open
> > source it does not contain DynaTune (or what their auto tuning feature
> > for EnterpriseDB is called). Might be a nice addition to be able to
> get
> > this unbundled as a binary .. for this distribution? At any rate
> another
> > PostgreSQL distribution, well not another actually its "the first-ever
> > professional-grade distribution".
>
> It's basically PostgreSQL and regular add-on components installed in an
> unusual way.  Certainly not the first, and arguably not professional.
>
> http://people.planetpostgresql.org/peter/index.php?/archives/9-Enterpris
> eDB-and-the-Professional-Grade.html
>
> --
> Peter Eisentraut
> http://developer.postgresql.org/~petere/
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