Re: Oracle buying Sleepycat, JBoss, and - Mailing list pgsql-advocacy

Could Oracle modify PHP and JBoss so they work poorly with open source
databases?

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Mike Ellsworth wrote:
> Robert Treat wrote:
>
> <Of course I haven't figured out where PHP/Zend fits into this... maybe
> to help make php/mysql less ubiquitous. >
>
> Just a guess - but it may be related to IBM's Open Ajax initiative.
> http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1917665,00.asp
>
> Presumably, web-apps are a big part of Oracle's future plans.  If they
> own the better-known power tools, they'll be better able to control the
> web app "construction process" and help hatch more Salesforce dot com's,
> which I believe use Oracle.
>
> Next salvo could come from Adobe/Macromedia.  They'll need to enter the
> fray soon.
>
> I think there is PG lemonade to be made from the lemons.
>
>
>
>
> >On Fri, 2006-02-10 at 11:41, Luke Lonergan wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Bruce,
> >>
> >>On 2/10/06 8:27 AM, "Bruce Momjian" <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>What they are _not_ getting involved in is software that is community
> >>>controlled, like PostgreSQL or Linux, because it much harder to see how
> >>>a purchase would allow tight control of the software, resulting in
> >>>revenue.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>True.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Or tight control resulting in killing the competition. Even with the
> >death of great bridge, postgresql kept on going, and I'd say there is no
> >company currently that has as much sway as great bridge did "way back
> >when"
> >
> >
> >
> >>I think it's clear they're going after applications again - buying many
> >>proven foundational elements of a software development stack in one gulp.
> >>What I wonder is what their next step might be - did they do this (and
> >>InnoDB) to remove competition?  Or do they expect to somehow monetize a new
> >>stack?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >My opinion is it's all about eliminating competition. InnoDB and JBoss
> >don't give them code that is substantially different in a market effect
> >sense, and sleepycat has only marginal value in the embedded space
> >compared to the $$ oracle gets in the enterprise rdbms market.  However
> >killing JBoss would kill a competitor, and getting sleepycat puts an
> >even tighter grip on mysql. Of course I haven't figured out where
> >PHP/Zend fits into this... maybe to help make php/mysql less
> >ubiquitous.
> >
> >
> >
> >>Is Oracle trying to become an open source company?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >At best they are trying to become a services company like IBM, but I
> >still think they are just trying to slow down competition.
> >
> >
> >Robert Treat
> >
> >
>

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