Chris,
Your persistence and your ideas suggest that you have
something to contribute in this area. Why not sign up
on the pgsql-advocacy list, and carry your ideas
forward there? That would be an appropriate forum for
this kind of discussion.
The arguments on both sides (if there are only two
sides) are strong, which is why this is such a
difficult problem. But I see some promise of the
emergence from further discussion of some workable
formula. The Wise Heads have been convinced to change
their minds before, and can be again. Best of luck!
--- Chris Travers <chris@travelamericas.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 2003-12-12 at 21:40, Bruce Momjian wrote:
>
> > Imagine if Linus or the Linux kernel guys tried to
> standardize Linux
> > training --- it would be a mess.
> >
> Exactly, but that is what community is for :-)
>
> > Also, though lots of people want training, seems
> that want _free_
> > training. They aren't flooding my Atlanta
> classes, that's for sure. I
> > give classes at many conferences around the world
> too, and I get usually
> > 20-40 people --- not exactly a flood either.
> Maybe they want me to come
> > to their house? :-) Tell me what your wife is
> cooking for dinner
> > before I decide. :-)
>
> I guess I see this from a different angle.
>
> The problem is not only because people only want
> free training, but
> because the PostgreSQL community by and large has a
> very small novice
> component. Most people who turn to PostgreSQL
> understand what it is
> they are looking for and have experience with other
> relational database
> systems. As a result these people (myself included)
> can easily pick up
> the manual and run with it.
>
> Compared to that of MySQL, our community is sparse,
> widely disperse, and
> MUCH more experienced/professional. This puts a
> damper on the training
> unless we can create a larger interest in the
> database among novices.
> This is partly what the job of the advocacy
> community is. But really it
> crosses all boundaries.
>
> I am wondering if you are interested in helping with
> some sort of skills
> outline project-- what skills we as a community
> think are important for
> someone to claim basic mastery over the database
> manager. Not as if you
> don't have enough to do already ;-) Maybe at least
> as a mentor.
>
> Best Wishes,
> Chris Travers
>
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