Re: Default privileges for new databases (was Re: Can't - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

It just bothers me that of all the databases that should be locked down,
it should be template1, and it isn't by default.

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Rod Taylor wrote:
> On Mon, 2002-08-26 at 23:45, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > 
> > Oh, so we don't modify public writeability of template1 because the
> > admin may want to disable write in template1 so all future databases
> > will have it disabled.  I see.
> > 
> > So template1 is writable (yuck) only so databases created from template1
> > are writeable to world by default.  Is that accurate?
> 
> I believe thats the crux of the issue -- but those of us who don't want
> newly created DBs to be world writable have no issues with that :)
> 
> 
> Could create a template2 as the default 'copy from' template.  Make it
> connectible strictly by superusers.  Template1 becomes a holding area
> for those without a db to connect to and can be locked down.
> 
> 
> Another is to enable users to connect to the server without requiring a
> database.  This basically removes the secondary requirement of template1
> to be the holding area for those otherwise without a home.
> 
> 
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> > 
> > Rod Taylor wrote:
> > > Mostly because a user may explicitly create a database with wanted
> > > permissions, only to have this 'special code' remove them.
> > > 
> > > I personally intend to immediately revoke permissions on public in
> > > template1, to allow the database owner to grant them as needed.
> > > 
> > > On Mon, 2002-08-26 at 22:27, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Sorry, I am confused.  Why can we modify temp's permissions on CREATE
> > > > DATABASE but not public's permissions?
> > > > 
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> > > > 
> > > > Tom Lane wrote:
> > > > > Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us> writes:
> > > > > > Have we addressed this?  I don't think so.
> > > > > 
> > > > > No, it's not done yet.  My inclination is
> > > > > 
> > > > > * Template1 has temp table creation and schema creation disabled
> > > > > (disallowed to world) by default.
> > > > > 
> > > > > * CREATE DATABASE sets up new databases with temp table creation allowed
> > > > > to world and schema creation allowed to DB owner only (regardless of
> > > > > what the template database had).  The owner can adjust this default
> > > > > afterwards if he doesn't like it.
> > > > > 
> > > > > It would be nice to lock down the public schema in template1 too, but I
> > > > > see no good way to do that, because CREATE DATABASE can't readily fiddle
> > > > > with protections *inside* the database --- the only games we can play
> > > > > are with the protections stored in the pg_database row itself.  So
> > > > > public's permissions are going to be inherited from the template
> > > > > database, and that means template1's public has to be writable.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Objections anyone?
> > > > > 
> > > > >             regards, tom lane
> > > > > 
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