Re: Separate shared_buffer management process - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From sailesh@EECS.Berkeley.EDU
Subject Re: Separate shared_buffer management process
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In response to Separate shared_buffer management process  (Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>)
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This would be a good idea I think. DB2 has a page-cleaner background process that periodically writes out dirty pages
todisk. Reduces checkpoint I/O. 
 

I don't see much point in serializing all bufferpool I/O through a separate dedicated backend. Informix uses something
likethis.
 

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----- Original Message -----
From: Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
Date: Wednesday, October 8, 2003 12:33 pm
Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Separate shared_buffer management process

> 
> Added to TODO:
> 
>     * Use background process to write dirty shared buffers to disk
> 
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> --------
> 
> Tom Lane wrote:
> > Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us> writes:
> > > Would it be a good idea to have a separate shared buffer 
> process to
> > > manage the cache?  Could such a process take workload off of 
> the main
> > > backend and improve their performance?
> > 
> > > Just an idea?
> > 
> > I can't recall if this has been discussed on the list, but I 
> know I've
> > thought about the idea of a background "buffer writer" process that
> > would simply cycle through the buffer cache and write out dirty 
> buffers> in some low-priority fashion.
> > 
> > The idea is this would reduce the I/O crunch at checkpoint 
> times, as
> > well as reducing the odds that any foreground backend process 
> would have
> > to block waiting for I/O before it could recycle a buffer slot 
> to read
> > in a page it needs.  (Perhaps the background writer could be 
> tuned to
> > preferentially write dirty buffers that are near the tail of the LRU
> > queue, and thus are likely to get recycled soon.)
> > 
> > In the WAL world, you cannot "write a dirty buffer" until you have
> > written *and synced* the WAL log as least as far as the LSN of the
> > buffer you want to write.  So a background buffer writer would have
> > to write WAL buffers as well, and in that context it could find 
> itself> blocking foreground processes.  I'm not sure what this 
> does to the
> > notion of "background I/O".  Maybe only buffers whose changes are
> > already synced in WAL should be eligible for background write.
> > It needs some thought anyway.
> > 
> >                     regards, tom lane
> > 
> 
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