Re: News links, post 'em here - Mailing list pgsql-advocacy

Hi there,

Just back from .. internet connexion problems, actualy :-)

Le vendredi 13 septembre 2013 à 15:20 +0200, Marc Cousin a écrit :
> On 12/09/2013 18:46, Joshua D. Drake wrote:
> >
> > On 09/12/2013 09:27 AM, damien clochard wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >
> >>
> >> 3/ PostgreSQL companies are not marketing bullies :) We all know the
> >> difference between advertising corporate services and promoting the
> >> project. I'm not saying there's never been any problem but I believe it
> >> was always unintentional. And it can always be discussed on
> >> pgsql-advocacy or pgsql-www
> >
> > Just curious but, how do you think the community would react if EDB or
> > CMD was quoted the way Dalibo was quoted? Consider the following:
> >
> > From:
> > http://www.journaldunet.com/developpeur/outils/postgresql-9-3-big-data-0913.shtml
> >
> >
> > " PostgreSQL  9.3 is placed under the sign of interoperability with
> > other storage engines, whether others such as Oracle RDBMS or NoSQL
> > databases, "says Dalibo."
> >
> > " PostgreSQL  9.3 is placed under the sign of interoperability with
> > other storage engines, whether others such as Oracle RDBMS or NoSQL
> > databases, "says Command Prompt. "
> >
> > From:
> >
> >
http://www.programmez.com/actualites.php?titre_actu=Sortie-de-PostgreSQL-93--Interoperabilite-NoSQL-et-vues-materialisees-!&id_actu=13825
> >
> >
> > According to Jean-Paul Argudo, founder of the site  www.postgresql.fr
> > Dalibo specialist and director of company in France PostgreSQL "
> > PostgreSQL is more than ever the alternative # 1 in Oracle. New in
> > version 9.3 are the perfect illustration including materialized views,
> > indexing regular expression and management of federated data. Besides
> > the major accounts are not wrong and turn increasingly to PostgreSQL to
> > review their licensing policies while maintaining an innovative and
> > robust RDBMS. "
>
> To be transparent on this, I work for Dalibo. But I think the rest of
> this tread is a bid misguided by this second translation.
>
> I don't really know where this translation comes from (looks like an
> automated translation to me), but it is inacurate:
>
> Selon Jean-Paul Argudo, fondateur du site www.postgresql.fr et directeur
> de DALIBO société spécialiste de PostgreSQL en France, « PostgreSQL est
> plus que jamais l'alternative n°1 à Oracle...
>
> Should be translated as:
>
> According to Jean-Paul Argudo, founder of the site www.postgresql.fr and
> directory of Dalibo, a company specialized on PostgreSQL in France,
> "PostgreSQL is more than ever the #1 alternative to Oracle...
>
>
> Nowhere it is said that Dalibo is the French branch of PostgreSQL or
> anything like that. Only that Dalibo is specialized on PostgreSQL, and
> is french. I hope this helps clarifying this.

Thanks for this answer to this thread Marc.

"traduttore-mentore" has they say in Italian: The one translating is a
lyar :-D

So, JD, on this one, I guess you owe me a beer for ever thinking I could
be that kind of guy telling such a bullshit :-)

I'm egocentric but not this much ! :-)

> The rest of the points discussed are of course valid ...

About this :

On 12/09/2013 18:46, Joshua D. Drake wrote:
>It is different because of who Dalibo is. They stand to commercially
>benefit from being associated with a .Org release like that.

That is really true for every PostgreSQL company.

But the only way we have to be associated to the project respecfully
towards our community is by our contributions whatever they are (code,
reviews, events, sponsorship, advocacy, education, etc..).

Thats the only way to be in the all of fame
(http://www.postgresql.org/about/sponsors/) for a company like ours.

AFAIK, *every* PostgreSQL knows the rules and play quite well with it.


Cheers,

--
Jean-Paul Argudo
www.PostgreSQL.fr
www.Dalibo.com