Re: Avoiding upgrade backlash

From: Tom Lane
Subject: Re: Avoiding upgrade backlash
Date: ,
Msg-id: 13606.1194908652@sss.pgh.pa.us
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In response to: Avoiding upgrade backlash  (Josh Berkus)
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Avoiding upgrade backlash  (Josh Berkus, )
 Re: Avoiding upgrade backlash  (Tom Lane, )
 Re: [pgsql-advocacy] Avoiding upgrade backlash  (Peter Eisentraut, )
  Re: [pgsql-advocacy] Avoiding upgrade backlash  (Josh Berkus, )
   Re: [pgsql-advocacy] Avoiding upgrade backlash  (Peter Eisentraut, )
   Re: [pgsql-advocacy] Avoiding upgrade backlash  (Tom Lane, )
    Re: [pgsql-advocacy] Avoiding upgrade backlash  ("Joshua D. Drake", )
  Re: [pgsql-advocacy] Avoiding upgrade backlash  (Tom Lane, )
   Re: [pgsql-advocacy] Avoiding upgrade backlash  (Bruce Momjian, )
    Re: [pgsql-advocacy] Avoiding upgrade backlash  (Josh Berkus, )
     Re: [pgsql-advocacy] Avoiding upgrade backlash  (Tom Lane, )
      Re: [pgsql-advocacy] Avoiding upgrade backlash  (Bruce Momjian, )
       Re: [pgsql-advocacy] Avoiding upgrade backlash  ("Joshua D. Drake", )
        Re: [pgsql-advocacy] Avoiding upgrade backlash  (Bruce Momjian, )
         Re: [pgsql-advocacy] Avoiding upgrade backlash  ("Joshua D. Drake", )
          Re: [pgsql-advocacy] Avoiding upgrade backlash  (Bruce Momjian, )
        Re: [pgsql-advocacy] Avoiding upgrade backlash  (Tom Lane, )
         Re: [pgsql-advocacy] Avoiding upgrade backlash  ("Joshua D. Drake", )
          Re: [pgsql-advocacy] Avoiding upgrade backlash  (Bruce Momjian, )
           Re: [pgsql-advocacy] Avoiding upgrade backlash  ("Joshua D. Drake", )
           Re: [pgsql-advocacy] Avoiding upgrade backlash  ( (Theo Kramer), )

Josh Berkus <> writes:
> While we are right to choke down abuse of implicit casting, it might be a
> good idea to give users stronger warnings and instructions.

> I'm thinking that we need to warn everyone about:
> 1) They need to use 8.3's pg_dump, not the old version, to upgrade (this is
> always true but now doing it wrong will break a lot more users).

Uh, what makes you think that will make any difference?

> 3) If Robert gets his type-cast backport package together, the location of
> that.

The very *last* thing I want to see is encouragement of people trying to
undo that change.

            regards, tom lane


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