Re: change in LOCK behavior - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Tom Lane
Subject Re: change in LOCK behavior
Date
Msg-id 12289.1353945347@sss.pgh.pa.us
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In response to Re: change in LOCK behavior  (Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>)
Responses Re: change in LOCK behavior  (Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>)
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Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com> writes:
> On 11 October 2012 20:43, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:
>> Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com> writes:
>>> So we have to take the snapshot before you begin execution, but it
>>> seems that to avoid surprising behavior we also have to take it after
>>> acquiring locks.  And it looks like locking is intertwined with a
>>> bunch of other parse analysis tasks that might require a snapshot to
>>> have been taken first.  Whee.

>> Yeah.  I think that a good solution to this would involve guaranteeing
>> that the execution snapshot is not taken until we have all locks that
>> are going to be taken on the tables.  Which is likely to involve a fair
>> amount of refactoring, though I admit I've not looked at details.
>> 
>> In any case, it's a mistake to think about this in isolation.  If we're
>> going to do something about redefining SnapshotNow to avoid its race
>> conditions, that's going to move the goalposts quite a lot.
>> 
>> Anyway, my feeling about it is that I don't want 9.2 to have an
>> intermediate behavior between the historical one and whatever we end up
>> designing to satisfy these concerns.  That's why I'm pressing for
>> reversion and not a band-aid fix in 9.2.  I certainly hope we can do
>> better going forward, but this is not looking like whatever we come up
>> with would be sane to back-patch.

> Agreed, please revert.

We have to do something about this one way or another before we can ship
9.2.2.  Is the consensus to revert this patch:
http://git.postgresql.org/gitweb/?p=postgresql.git;a=commitdiff;h=d573e239f03506920938bf0be56c868d9c3416da
and if so, who's going to do the deed?
        regards, tom lane



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