Thread: INTERVAL MINUTE TO SECOND didn't do what I thought it would do

INTERVAL MINUTE TO SECOND didn't do what I thought it would do

From
Ron Johnson
Date:
PG 14.13

The goal of "(now() - query_start)::INTERVAL MINUTE TO SECOND" column is to see how many minutes and seconds ago that the query started.  (Why?  Because that's useful to me, and the people I show the output to when queries run for more than a few minutes.  We don't need to see hours and days; just the total MMMMM:SS.mmm.)

I'd hoped that ::INTERVAL MINUTE TO SECOND would do the trick, but MINUTE TO SECOND seems to be ignored.

Is there cast magic that does what I want?

TAPc=# select pid
       ,datname as db, usename
       ,to_char(query_start, 'YYYY-MM-DD HH24:MI:SS.MS') as  qry_start
       ,(now() - query_start)::INTERVAL MINUTE TO SECOND as qry_elapsed
       ,cast(state as char(11)) as state
from pg_stat_activity
WHERE pid != pg_backend_pid()
and state != 'idle';
   pid   |  db  |  usename   |        qry_start        |       qry_elapsed       |    state    
---------+------+------------+-------------------------+-------------------------+-------------
  657996 |      | replicator | 2024-11-11 21:03:00.992 | 57 days 16:38:22.342449 | active    
 4070070 | TAPc | TAP        | 2025-01-08 13:41:23.202 | 00:00:00.132817         | active    
 4070069 | TAPc | TAP        | 2025-01-08 13:41:23.140 | 00:00:00.194222         | active    
 4070065 | TAPc | TAP        | 2025-01-08 13:41:23.238 | 00:00:00.096418         | active    
(4 rows)



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Re: INTERVAL MINUTE TO SECOND didn't do what I thought it would do

From
Adrian Klaver
Date:

On 1/8/25 11:00 AM, Ron Johnson wrote:
> PG 14.13
> 
> The goal of "(now() - query_start)::INTERVAL MINUTE TO SECOND" column is 
> to see how many minutes and seconds ago that the query started.  (Why?  
> Because that's useful to me, and the people I show the output to when 
> queries run for more than a few minutes.  We don't need to see hours and 
> days; just the total MMMMM:SS.mmm.)
> 
> I'd hoped that ::INTERVAL MINUTE TO SECOND would do the trick, but 
> MINUTE TO SECOND seems to be ignored.

 From here:

https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/datatype-datetime.html#DATATYPE-INTERVAL-INPUT

"Also, field values “to the right” of the least significant field 
allowed by the fields specification are silently discarded. For example, 
writing INTERVAL '1 day 2:03:04' HOUR TO MINUTE results in dropping the 
seconds field, but not the day field."


> 
> Is there cast magic that does what I want?

The only way I can think of extract the epoch from the interval and pass 
to a function that builds what you want.


> 
> TAPc=# select pid
>         ,datname as db, usename
>         ,to_char(query_start, 'YYYY-MM-DD HH24:MI:SS.MS <http://SS.MS>') 
> as  qry_start
>         ,(now() - query_start)::INTERVAL MINUTE TO SECOND as qry_elapsed
>         ,cast(state as char(11)) as state
> from pg_stat_activity
> WHERE pid != pg_backend_pid()
> and state != 'idle';
>     pid   |  db  |  usename   |        qry_start        |       
> qry_elapsed       |    state
> ---------+------+------------+-------------------------+-------------------------+-------------
>    657996 |      | replicator | 2024-11-11 21:03:00.992 | 57 days 
> 16:38:22.342449 | active
>   4070070 | TAPc | TAP        | 2025-01-08 13:41:23.202 | 
> 00:00:00.132817         | active
>   4070069 | TAPc | TAP        | 2025-01-08 13:41:23.140 | 
> 00:00:00.194222         | active
>   4070065 | TAPc | TAP        | 2025-01-08 13:41:23.238 | 
> 00:00:00.096418         | active
> (4 rows)
> 
> 
> -- 
> Death to <Redacted>, and butter sauce.
> Don't boil me, I'm still alive.
> <Redacted> lobster!

-- 
Adrian Klaver
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Re: INTERVAL MINUTE TO SECOND didn't do what I thought it would do

From
Ron Johnson
Date:
On Wed, Jan 8, 2025 at 2:43 PM Adrian Klaver <adrian.klaver@aklaver.com> wrote:


On 1/8/25 11:00 AM, Ron Johnson wrote:
> PG 14.13
>
> The goal of "(now() - query_start)::INTERVAL MINUTE TO SECOND" column is
> to see how many minutes and seconds ago that the query started.  (Why? 
> Because that's useful to me, and the people I show the output to when
> queries run for more than a few minutes.  We don't need to see hours and
> days; just the total MMMMM:SS.mmm.)
>
> I'd hoped that ::INTERVAL MINUTE TO SECOND would do the trick, but
> MINUTE TO SECOND seems to be ignored.

 From here:

https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/datatype-datetime.html#DATATYPE-INTERVAL-INPUT

"Also, field values “to the right” of the least significant field
allowed by the fields specification are silently discarded. For example,
writing INTERVAL '1 day 2:03:04' HOUR TO MINUTE results in dropping the
seconds field, but not the day field."

I read that, but it did not mention that the day values are retained.
 
>
> Is there cast magic that does what I want?

The only way I can think of extract the epoch from the interval and pass
to a function that builds what you want.

I was afraid of that.  Must decide if it's worth the time.
 
>
> TAPc=# select pid
>         ,datname as db, usename
>         ,to_char(query_start, 'YYYY-MM-DD HH24:MI:SS.MS <http://SS.MS>')
> as  qry_start
>         ,(now() - query_start)::INTERVAL MINUTE TO SECOND as qry_elapsed
>         ,cast(state as char(11)) as state
> from pg_stat_activity
> WHERE pid != pg_backend_pid()
> and state != 'idle';
>     pid   |  db  |  usename   |        qry_start        |       
> qry_elapsed       |    state
> ---------+------+------------+-------------------------+-------------------------+-------------
>    657996 |      | replicator | 2024-11-11 21:03:00.992 | 57 days
> 16:38:22.342449 | active
>   4070070 | TAPc | TAP        | 2025-01-08 13:41:23.202 |
> 00:00:00.132817         | active
>   4070069 | TAPc | TAP        | 2025-01-08 13:41:23.140 |
> 00:00:00.194222         | active
>   4070065 | TAPc | TAP        | 2025-01-08 13:41:23.238 |
> 00:00:00.096418         | active
> (4 rows)
>
>
> --
> Death to <Redacted>, and butter sauce.
> Don't boil me, I'm still alive.
> <Redacted> lobster!

--
Adrian Klaver
adrian.klaver@aklaver.com


--
Death to <Redacted>, and butter sauce.
Don't boil me, I'm still alive.
<Redacted> lobster!

Re: INTERVAL MINUTE TO SECOND didn't do what I thought it would do

From
Adrian Klaver
Date:

On 1/8/25 11:58 AM, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 8, 2025 at 2:43 PM Adrian Klaver <adrian.klaver@aklaver.com 
> <mailto:adrian.klaver@aklaver.com>> wrote:
> 

>      > I'd hoped that ::INTERVAL MINUTE TO SECOND would do the trick, but
>      > MINUTE TO SECOND seems to be ignored.
> 
>       From here:
> 
>     https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/datatype-datetime.html#DATATYPE-INTERVAL-INPUT
<https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/datatype-datetime.html#DATATYPE-INTERVAL-INPUT>
> 
>     "Also, field values “to the right” of the least significant field
>     allowed by the fields specification are silently discarded. For
>     example,
>     writing INTERVAL '1 day 2:03:04' HOUR TO MINUTE results in dropping the
>     seconds field, but not the day field."
> 
> 
> I read that, but it did not mention that the day values are retained.

I suggest reading the entire section(8.5.4. Interval Input) as well as 
8.5.5. Interval Output.

> 
>      >
>      > Is there cast magic that does what I want?
> 
>     The only way I can think of extract the epoch from the interval and
>     pass
>     to a function that builds what you want.
> 
> 
> I was afraid of that.  Must decide if it's worth the time.
>
If you don't mind decimal minutes, a quick and dirty solution is:

select extract(epoch from (now() - '2025-01-07 14:15:32'::timestamptz)) 
/ 60;

1301.5244606333333333


-- 
Adrian Klaver
adrian.klaver@aklaver.com



Re: INTERVAL MINUTE TO SECOND didn't do what I thought it would do

From
Ron Johnson
Date:
On Wed, Jan 8, 2025 at 3:07 PM Adrian Klaver <adrian.klaver@aklaver.com> wrote:


On 1/8/25 11:58 AM, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 8, 2025 at 2:43 PM Adrian Klaver <adrian.klaver@aklaver.com
> <mailto:adrian.klaver@aklaver.com>> wrote:
>

>      > I'd hoped that ::INTERVAL MINUTE TO SECOND would do the trick, but
>      > MINUTE TO SECOND seems to be ignored.
>
>       From here:
>
>     https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/datatype-datetime.html#DATATYPE-INTERVAL-INPUT <https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/datatype-datetime.html#DATATYPE-INTERVAL-INPUT>
>
>     "Also, field values “to the right” of the least significant field
>     allowed by the fields specification are silently discarded. For
>     example,
>     writing INTERVAL '1 day 2:03:04' HOUR TO MINUTE results in dropping the
>     seconds field, but not the day field."
>
>
> I read that, but it did not mention that the day values are retained.

I suggest reading the entire section(8.5.4. Interval Input) as well as
8.5.5. Interval Output.

I did, but either missed something or did not interpret it correctly.
 
>
>      >
>      > Is there cast magic that does what I want?
>
>     The only way I can think of extract the epoch from the interval and
>     pass
>     to a function that builds what you want.
>
>
> I was afraid of that.  Must decide if it's worth the time.
>
If you don't mind decimal minutes, a quick and dirty solution is:

select extract(epoch from (now() - '2025-01-07 14:15:32'::timestamptz))
/ 60;

1301.5244606333333333

That's what I currently do, using to_char() to add commas and display 3 decimal places.

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Death to <Redacted>, and butter sauce.
Don't boil me, I'm still alive.
<Redacted> lobster!