Thread: Re: Make postmaster environment dump easier to skim over

Re: Make postmaster environment dump easier to skim over

From
Peter Eisentraut
Date:
On 26.11.24 17:55, Andres Freund wrote:
> I think the dump is occasionally useful, so I don't think the best course is
> to remove it entirely. But I think we could fairly easily improve the
> situation by emitting all environment variables as a single elog message.
> 
> 2024-11-26 11:35:58.877 EST [1097572][postmaster][:0][] DEBUG:  00000: postgres: PostmasterMain: initial environment
dump:
>     SHELL=/bin/bash
> ...
>     DISPLAY=:0
>     SHLVL=1
> ...
>     LC_TIME=C
> 2024-11-26 11:35:58.877 EST [1097572][postmaster][:0][] LOCATION:  PostmasterMain, postmaster.c:879
> 
> is - IMNSHO - a heck of a lot more skimmable.
> 
> 
> In the attached patch I chose to omit the "-----------------------------------------"
> that we previously emmitted. IMO they're not really needed anymore now that
> this is emitted as one message.

Yes, that makes a lot of sense.

> I'm not sure why the message includes "progname" and
> PostmasterMain. Particularly the latter seems redundant with the elog
> infrastructure today, the message is quite old (an elog since a033daf56639 in
> 2002 and an fprintf in the current location since ebb0a2014930, in 2000). But
> I didn't touch that for now.

Yes, that looks like an unnecessary leftover.  Let's just remove it.



Re: Make postmaster environment dump easier to skim over

From
Andres Freund
Date:
Hi,

On 2024-11-27 14:56:33 +0100, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> On 26.11.24 17:55, Andres Freund wrote:
> > I think the dump is occasionally useful, so I don't think the best course is
> > to remove it entirely. But I think we could fairly easily improve the
> > situation by emitting all environment variables as a single elog message.
> > 
> > 2024-11-26 11:35:58.877 EST [1097572][postmaster][:0][] DEBUG:  00000: postgres: PostmasterMain: initial
environmentdump:
 
> >     SHELL=/bin/bash
> > ...
> >     DISPLAY=:0
> >     SHLVL=1
> > ...
> >     LC_TIME=C
> > 2024-11-26 11:35:58.877 EST [1097572][postmaster][:0][] LOCATION:  PostmasterMain, postmaster.c:879
> > 
> > is - IMNSHO - a heck of a lot more skimmable.
> > 
> > 
> > In the attached patch I chose to omit the "-----------------------------------------"
> > that we previously emmitted. IMO they're not really needed anymore now that
> > this is emitted as one message.
> 
> Yes, that makes a lot of sense.
> 
> > I'm not sure why the message includes "progname" and
> > PostmasterMain. Particularly the latter seems redundant with the elog
> > infrastructure today, the message is quite old (an elog since a033daf56639 in
> > 2002 and an fprintf in the current location since ebb0a2014930, in 2000). But
> > I didn't touch that for now.
> 
> Yes, that looks like an unnecessary leftover.  Let's just remove it.

Thanks for looking Peter and Heikki. Removed progname and PostmasterMain
references and pushed.

Greetings,

Andres Freund