Thread: BUG #18399: Query plan optimization results in runtime error when hoisting cast from inside subquery
BUG #18399: Query plan optimization results in runtime error when hoisting cast from inside subquery
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The following bug has been logged on the website: Bug reference: 18399 Logged by: Sawyer Knoblich Email address: scknoblich@gmail.com PostgreSQL version: 16.2 Operating system: Docker image on macOS Description: Hello, I have the following standalone query that operates on a dataset with a text column and attempts to find all rows where that column's text is an integer that is under a certain value: ``` with raw_data(id, value) as (values (1, '1900'), (2, '2100'), (3, 'abc')), integers as (select value::integer from raw_data where id in (select id from raw_data where value ~ '^\d+$')) select count(*) from integers where value < 2000; ``` In this query the "integers" CTE attempts to find all rows where the "value" column is able to be converted to an integer (using a subquery) and performs that conversion, and then the main query does a simple where + count to produce the required dataset. With this query my expectation was that the main query would only be operating on values that had already been converted to integers. Running the query as-is results in `[22P02] ERROR: invalid input syntax for type integer: "abc"`. From the query plan I can see that the optimizer has chosen to directly replace `q.value` with `value::integer` in the outermost where condition to be evaluated independently from the regex match, which ends up attempting the "abc"::integer cast before its row is able to be filtered out by the CTE's own condition: ``` Aggregate (cost=0.20..0.21 rows=1 width=8) CTE raw_data -> Values Scan on "*VALUES*" (cost=0.00..0.04 rows=3 width=36) -> Nested Loop Semi Join (cost=0.00..0.16 rows=1 width=0) Join Filter: (raw_data.id = raw_data_1.id) -> CTE Scan on raw_data (cost=0.00..0.08 rows=1 width=4) Filter: ((value)::integer < 2000) -> CTE Scan on raw_data raw_data_1 (cost=0.00..0.07 rows=1 width=4) Filter: (value ~ '^\d+$'::text) ``` I have also reproduced this behavior when using a different condition on the main query such as a simple null check, when selecting from a larger persisted table instead of the "raw_data" CTE used here for simplicity, and when using a subquery instead of the "integers" CTE. I did find that if I remove the subquery inside the CTE's where clause and instead apply the regex directly to the "value" column then I get the following query plan which succeeds with no issues: ``` with raw_data(id, value) as (values (1, '1900'), (2, '2100'), (3, 'abc')), integers as (select value::integer from raw_data where value ~ '^\d+$') select count(*) from integers where value < 2000; ---------- Aggregate (cost=0.07..0.08 rows=1 width=8) -> Values Scan on "*VALUES*" (cost=0.00..0.07 rows=1 width=0) Filter: ((column2 ~ '^\d+$'::text) AND ((column2)::integer < 2000)) ``` My expectation was that the query should behave as if the CTE (or subquery if I had used that instead) has fully executed before moving on to the main query and this behavior breaks that assumption (which may or may not be correct). I attempted to search the docs for anything related to this, either CTE/subquery execution order guarantees or hoisting of casts, but I couldn't find anything about it. If this turns out not to a bug and is just expected behavior with existing documentation could you please link me to the relevant page for future reference?
Re: BUG #18399: Query plan optimization results in runtime error when hoisting cast from inside subquery
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Tom Lane
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PG Bug reporting form <noreply@postgresql.org> writes: > My expectation was that the query should behave as if the CTE (or subquery > if I had used that instead) has fully executed before moving on to the main > query and this behavior breaks that assumption (which may or may not be > correct). I attempted to search the docs for anything related to this, > either CTE/subquery execution order guarantees or hoisting of casts, but I > couldn't find anything about it. If this turns out not to a bug and is just > expected behavior with existing documentation could you please link me to > the relevant page for future reference? You need to materialize the CTE to be certain that it won't be intermingled with the calling query: =# with raw_data(id, value) as (values (1, '1900'), (2, '2100'), (3, 'abc')), integers as materialized (select value::integer from raw_data where id in (select id from raw_data where value ~ '^\d+$')) select count(*) from integers where value < 2000; count ------- 1 (1 row) See https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/sql-select.html#SQL-WITH (last few paras of that sub-section). The real bottom line here is that the cast to integer is presumed to be side-effect-free, which isn't true if you're working with data where it could throw errors. My advice is to rethink your data model: this sort of EAV approach with inconsistent data types in the "same" column just does not play nice with SQL optimizers, so it'll cause you ongoing heartburn. If you think you're too far down the road for that, consider replacing the cast with some non-error-throwing user-defined function, about like case when x ~ '^\d+$' then x::integer else null::integer end regards, tom lane
Re: BUG #18399: Query plan optimization results in runtime error when hoisting cast from inside subquery
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Sawyer Knoblich
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Thank you Tom, I appreciate the quick response and the documentation links/suggested solutions. For context this data model definitely isn't by choice, it's part of a system that handles third-party data that comes in with potentially less-than-ideal data models/validation.
To make sure I'm understanding correctly, are you suggesting that this is not a bug? The mention of "the cast to integer is presumed to be side-effect-free, which isn't true if you're working with data where it could throw errors" to me heavily implies that this is a faulty assumption on behalf of the optimizer about what behaviors certain parts of the query may have, but I didn't get the impression that this is being considered an optimizer bug and is instead something that just needs to be worked around or avoided (although if I'm not interpreting it right then definitely please correct me). The linked documentation also seems to imply that using "materialized" is for generating better query plans and not for ensuring correctness, and this behavior also manifests when using an inner query directly.
I did look at https://www.postgresql.org/docs/16/xfunc-volatility.html but I didn't see any mention of fallibility in there with regards to optimization, only about side effects such as data mutation or non-deterministic results. Presumably this cast is being optimized like an immutable function (similar to division, and I've also reproduced this behavior with division by zero when the non-zero check is inside an inner query), but that seems to only look at whether or not a function is deterministic with respect to its inputs. I would have expected that this particular optimization additionally needs the requirement that the operation is guaranteed to succeed on all potential inputs in order for it to be valid.
Best,
Sawyer Knoblich
On Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 8:47 AM Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:
PG Bug reporting form <noreply@postgresql.org> writes:
> My expectation was that the query should behave as if the CTE (or subquery
> if I had used that instead) has fully executed before moving on to the main
> query and this behavior breaks that assumption (which may or may not be
> correct). I attempted to search the docs for anything related to this,
> either CTE/subquery execution order guarantees or hoisting of casts, but I
> couldn't find anything about it. If this turns out not to a bug and is just
> expected behavior with existing documentation could you please link me to
> the relevant page for future reference?
You need to materialize the CTE to be certain that it won't be
intermingled with the calling query:
=# with raw_data(id, value) as (values (1, '1900'), (2, '2100'), (3, 'abc')),
integers as materialized (select value::integer
from raw_data
where id in (select id from raw_data where value ~ '^\d+$'))
select count(*)
from integers
where value < 2000;
count
-------
1
(1 row)
See
https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/sql-select.html#SQL-WITH
(last few paras of that sub-section).
The real bottom line here is that the cast to integer is presumed
to be side-effect-free, which isn't true if you're working with
data where it could throw errors. My advice is to rethink your
data model: this sort of EAV approach with inconsistent data
types in the "same" column just does not play nice with SQL
optimizers, so it'll cause you ongoing heartburn. If you think
you're too far down the road for that, consider replacing the
cast with some non-error-throwing user-defined function,
about like
case when x ~ '^\d+$' then x::integer else null::integer end
regards, tom lane
Re: BUG #18399: Query plan optimization results in runtime error when hoisting cast from inside subquery
From
Tom Lane
Date:
Sawyer Knoblich <scknoblich@gmail.com> writes: > To make sure I'm understanding correctly, are you suggesting that this is > not a bug? The mention of "the cast to integer is presumed to be > side-effect-free, which isn't true if you're working with data where it > could throw errors" to me heavily implies that this is a faulty assumption > on behalf of the optimizer about what behaviors certain parts of the query > may have, but I didn't get the impression that this is being considered an > optimizer bug and is instead something that just needs to be worked around > or avoided (although if I'm not interpreting it right then definitely > please correct me). It is not an optimizer bug: the optimizer is doing what the function marking entitles it to. You could argue that it's a marking bug and no function/operator that can throw an error should be marked stable or immutable, because throwing an error is a kind of side-effect. But that would be a pretty useless answer, as it would nearly destroy our ability to optimize queries at all, since there's not all that many functions that can be guaranteed not to throw errors. In short, this state of affairs is an engineering compromise. It's not perfect, but it's not easy to see how to do better either. regards, tom lane
Re: BUG #18399: Query plan optimization results in runtime error when hoisting cast from inside subquery
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Sawyer Knoblich
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Thanks Tom, I can definitely appreciate that there are plenty of times for compromises like this in engineering so if the answer is "yes it's technically a bug, but it gives such a large benefit relative to the amount of issues it causes that it's better to have it than not" then I can live with that. I do wonder if it's worth calling this out in the documentation though if it's not there already as it was definitely surprising to me when I ran into it and couldn't find anything about it online, and it may be useful to have somewhere to link others to in the future.
Also yes, my original reply may have been somewhat vaguely worded but I was thinking about this a combined marking + optimizer bug in the sense that "the marking doesn't say that it isn't valid to do this and therefore the optimizer assumes it's allowed to do it", and it seemed to me that the root cause is the inability to actually represent this type of side effect with the current set of markers. I did have a decently large section drafted in my previous reply at one point about ideas for additional function marking that I thought might be interesting but had cut it out for the sake of brevity, but I'll write a quick summary here if you're interested.
In short, it felt to me like fallibility was orthogonal to volatility in that its side effect is only triggered by calling it the first time instead of by calling it multiple times. My thought was of a potential second type of function marker to describe fallibility that the optimizer could possibly leverage to hopefully still enable most types of optimizations while preventing scenarios such as this one. I was imagining that an operation like division could be marked something like "immutable fallible", which would indicate that the function is still allowed to be optimized in any way that an immutable function is except for any optimizations that may cause it to operate on additional input that it would otherwise not normally operate on in an unoptimized query, which could then be used to disallow this bug's optimization where the values given to the cast are first filtered by the where clause.
I'm sure there are all sorts of issues with this and I don't have nearly enough database internals experience to know if this is actually a good idea or not (maybe this would still limit nearly all optimizations, maybe nearly every function would have to be marked as fallible which would defeat the whole point, maybe just fallibility is too narrow and there are other causes of this type of side effect that would also benefit from this optimization constraint, it might not even be feasible to implement this, etc) but it was fun to daydream about and figured I'd share on the off chance it's useful in any way.
Best,
Sawyer Knoblich
On Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 5:37 PM Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:
Sawyer Knoblich <scknoblich@gmail.com> writes:
> To make sure I'm understanding correctly, are you suggesting that this is
> not a bug? The mention of "the cast to integer is presumed to be
> side-effect-free, which isn't true if you're working with data where it
> could throw errors" to me heavily implies that this is a faulty assumption
> on behalf of the optimizer about what behaviors certain parts of the query
> may have, but I didn't get the impression that this is being considered an
> optimizer bug and is instead something that just needs to be worked around
> or avoided (although if I'm not interpreting it right then definitely
> please correct me).
It is not an optimizer bug: the optimizer is doing what the function
marking entitles it to. You could argue that it's a marking bug and
no function/operator that can throw an error should be marked stable
or immutable, because throwing an error is a kind of side-effect.
But that would be a pretty useless answer, as it would nearly destroy
our ability to optimize queries at all, since there's not all that
many functions that can be guaranteed not to throw errors.
In short, this state of affairs is an engineering compromise.
It's not perfect, but it's not easy to see how to do better either.
regards, tom lane
Re: BUG #18399: Query plan optimization results in runtime error when hoisting cast from inside subquery
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David Rowley
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On Wed, 20 Mar 2024 at 16:10, Sawyer Knoblich <scknoblich@gmail.com> wrote: > In short, it felt to me like fallibility was orthogonal to volatility in that its side effect is only triggered by callingit the first time instead of by calling it multiple times. My thought was of a potential second type of function markerto describe fallibility that the optimizer could possibly leverage to hopefully still enable most types of optimizationswhile preventing scenarios such as this one. I was imagining that an operation like division could be markedsomething like "immutable fallible", which would indicate that the function is still allowed to be optimized in anyway that an immutable function is except for any optimizations that may cause it to operate on additional input that itwould otherwise not normally operate on in an unoptimized query, which could then be used to disallow this bug's optimizationwhere the values given to the cast are first filtered by the where clause. Thanks for thinking about it, but I don't think this would work as you only have to have > 1 condition that could cause ERRORs for the optimiser not to know the "correct" order of evaluation. Aside from that, just because the evaluation of the expression could fail, it does not mean that it *will* fail with the given data. For example, the addition of two BIGINT values *could* fail due to overflow, but it's unlikely that it will fail with most numbers that fit into that type. So restricting the order of evaluation for conditions which could fail is likely to upset more people than it will please. There are quite a lot of things which would have to be restricted, much more than you might think. Any conditions which could cause an error would have to be evaluated last in a WHERE clause and that might result in being unable to use indexes because some other (possibly unindexed) expression would need to be evaluated first. As for documentation, I wonder if it's worth a paragraph in [1] to mention SQL is a declarative language and mention a few caveats that could come with that which might catch out people who are used to procedural languages. David [1] https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/queries-overview.html
Re: BUG #18399: Query plan optimization results in runtime error when hoisting cast from inside subquery
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Tom Lane
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David Rowley <dgrowleyml@gmail.com> writes: > There are quite a lot of things which would have to be restricted, > much more than you might think. Any conditions which could cause an > error would have to be evaluated last in a WHERE clause and that might > result in being unable to use indexes because some other (possibly > unindexed) expression would need to be evaluated first. That particular aspect might not be too awful, because there's already a good deal of pressure for index opclass members to not fail --- certainly I'd expect that all standard btree comparison functions could be marked non-failing. (Let us slide quietly past the question of exactly how strong the guarantee should be; for example any function that takes toastable argument types is potentially at risk of OOM, but do you really want to exclude numeric_eq and texteq from the set of safe operations? See also past discussions on how strict we should be about the related concept of leakproofness.) In any case I agree with your larger point that ordering things such that potentially-failing tests are always done last would be a performance disaster, even if it's possible at all. regards, tom lane
Re: BUG #18399: Query plan optimization results in runtime error when hoisting cast from inside subquery
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Sawyer Knoblich
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Makes sense, I figured there was a decent chance it may not be viable but wanted to bring it up just in case it was useful. I didn't even think about the case of just a single where clause but that does indeed sound like a big problem for performance, although I wonder if the guarantees could be relaxed in any way that would help the viability at all (such as this type of optimization only being disallowed across query boundaries or something similar). But regardless it sounds like there are more issues than just this, and maybe just adding some documentation around this is good enough. I appreciate both of your thoughts on it, thank you.
Best,
Sawyer Knoblich
On Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 9:39 PM Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:
David Rowley <dgrowleyml@gmail.com> writes:
> There are quite a lot of things which would have to be restricted,
> much more than you might think. Any conditions which could cause an
> error would have to be evaluated last in a WHERE clause and that might
> result in being unable to use indexes because some other (possibly
> unindexed) expression would need to be evaluated first.
That particular aspect might not be too awful, because there's already
a good deal of pressure for index opclass members to not fail ---
certainly I'd expect that all standard btree comparison functions
could be marked non-failing. (Let us slide quietly past the question
of exactly how strong the guarantee should be; for example any function
that takes toastable argument types is potentially at risk of OOM,
but do you really want to exclude numeric_eq and texteq from the
set of safe operations? See also past discussions on how strict
we should be about the related concept of leakproofness.)
In any case I agree with your larger point that ordering things such
that potentially-failing tests are always done last would be a
performance disaster, even if it's possible at all.
regards, tom lane