Thread: InstallXLogFileSegment() vs concurrent WAL flush
Hi, New WAL space is created by renaming a file into place. Either a newly created file with a temporary name or, ideally, a recyclable old file with a name derived from an old LSN. I think there is a data loss window between rename() and fsync(parent_directory). A concurrent backend might open(new_name), write(), fdatasync(), and then we might lose power before the rename hits the disk. The data itself would survive the crash, but recovery wouldn't be able to find and replay it. That might break the log-before-data rule or forget a transaction that has been reported as committed to a client. Actual breakage would presumably require really bad luck, and I haven't seen this happen or anything, it just occurred to me while reading code, and I can't see any existing defences. One simple way to address that would be to make XLogFileInitInternal() wait for InstallXLogFileSegment() to finish. It's a little pessimistic to do that unconditionally, though, as then you have to wait even for rename operations for segment files later than the one you're opening, so I thought about how to skip waiting in that case -- see 0002. I'm not sure if it's worth worrying about or not.
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On Fri, 2 Feb 2024 11:18:18 +0100 Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > New WAL space is created by renaming a file into place. Either a > newly created file with a temporary name or, ideally, a recyclable old > file with a name derived from an old LSN. I think there is a data > loss window between rename() and fsync(parent_directory). A > concurrent backend might open(new_name), write(), fdatasync(), and > then we might lose power before the rename hits the disk. The data > itself would survive the crash, but recovery wouldn't be able to find > and replay it. That might break the log-before-data rule or forget a > transaction that has been reported as committed to a client. > > Actual breakage would presumably require really bad luck, and I > haven't seen this happen or anything, it just occurred to me while > reading code, and I can't see any existing defences. > > One simple way to address that would be to make XLogFileInitInternal() > wait for InstallXLogFileSegment() to finish. It's a little Or, can we make sure the rename is durable by calling fsync before returning the fd, as a patch attached here? Regards, Yugo Nagata > pessimistic to do that unconditionally, though, as then you have to > wait even for rename operations for segment files later than the one > you're opening, so I thought about how to skip waiting in that case -- > see 0002. I'm not sure if it's worth worrying about or not. -- Yugo NAGATA <nagata@sraoss.co.jp>
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On Fri, Feb 2, 2024 at 12:56 PM Yugo NAGATA <nagata@sraoss.co.jp> wrote: > On Fri, 2 Feb 2024 11:18:18 +0100 > Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@gmail.com> wrote: > > One simple way to address that would be to make XLogFileInitInternal() > > wait for InstallXLogFileSegment() to finish. It's a little > > Or, can we make sure the rename is durable by calling fsync before > returning the fd, as a patch attached here? Right, yeah, that works too. I'm not sure which way is better.
At Fri, 2 Feb 2024 14:42:46 +0100, Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@gmail.com> wrote in > On Fri, Feb 2, 2024 at 12:56 PM Yugo NAGATA <nagata@sraoss.co.jp> wrote: > > On Fri, 2 Feb 2024 11:18:18 +0100 > > Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@gmail.com> wrote: > > > One simple way to address that would be to make XLogFileInitInternal() > > > wait for InstallXLogFileSegment() to finish. It's a little > > > > Or, can we make sure the rename is durable by calling fsync before > > returning the fd, as a patch attached here? > > Right, yeah, that works too. I'm not sure which way is better. I'm not sure I like issuing spurious syncs unconditionally. Therefore, I prefer Thomas' approach in that regard. 0002 would be beneficial, considering the case of a very large max_wal_size, and the code seems to be the minimal required. I don't think it matters that the lock attempts occur uselessly until the first segment installation. That being said, we could avoid it by initializing last_known_installed_segno properly. regards. -- Kyotaro Horiguchi NTT Open Source Software Center