Thread: pg_waldump

pg_waldump

From
Fabrice Chapuis
Date:
Hi,
Is it possible to visualize the DDL with the pg_waldump tool. I created a postgres user but I cannot find the creation command in the wals

Thanks for help

Fabrice

Re:pg_waldump

From
Sergei Kornilov
Date:
Hello

It is something like

rmgr: Heap        len (rec/tot):    143/   143, tx:        748, lsn: 0/01530AF0, prev 0/01530AB8, desc: INSERT off: 17,
flags:0x00, blkref #0: rel 1664/0/1260 blk 0
 

just insertion into pg_authid (oid=1260)

regards, Sergei



Re: pg_waldump

From
Matthias van de Meent
Date:
On Tue, 19 Dec 2023, 12:27 Fabrice Chapuis, <fabrice636861@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> Is it possible to visualize the DDL with the pg_waldump tool. I created a postgres user but I cannot find the
creationcommand in the wals
 

Not really, no. PostgreSQL does not log DDL or DML as such in WAL.
Essentially all catalog updates are logged only as changes on a
certain page in some file: a new user getting inserted would be
approximately "Insert tuple [user's pg_role row data] on page X in
file [the file corresponding to the pg_role table]".

You could likely derive most DDL commands from Heap/Insert,
Heap/Delete, and Heap/Update records (after cross-referencing the
database's relfilemap), as most DDL is "just" a lot of in-memory
operations plus some record insertions/updates/deletes in catalog
tables. You'd also need to keep track of any relfilemap changes while
processing the WAL, as VACUUM FULL on the catalog tables would change
the file numbering of catalog tables...

Kind regards,

Matthias van de Meent
Neon (https://neon.tech)



Re: pg_waldump

From
Fabrice Chapuis
Date:
Ok thanks for all these precisions
Regards 
Fabrice

On Tue, Dec 19, 2023 at 2:00 PM Matthias van de Meent <boekewurm+postgres@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 19 Dec 2023, 12:27 Fabrice Chapuis, <fabrice636861@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> Is it possible to visualize the DDL with the pg_waldump tool. I created a postgres user but I cannot find the creation command in the wals

Not really, no. PostgreSQL does not log DDL or DML as such in WAL.
Essentially all catalog updates are logged only as changes on a
certain page in some file: a new user getting inserted would be
approximately "Insert tuple [user's pg_role row data] on page X in
file [the file corresponding to the pg_role table]".

You could likely derive most DDL commands from Heap/Insert,
Heap/Delete, and Heap/Update records (after cross-referencing the
database's relfilemap), as most DDL is "just" a lot of in-memory
operations plus some record insertions/updates/deletes in catalog
tables. You'd also need to keep track of any relfilemap changes while
processing the WAL, as VACUUM FULL on the catalog tables would change
the file numbering of catalog tables...

Kind regards,

Matthias van de Meent
Neon (https://neon.tech)