Thread: Re: How to build a new grammer for pg?

Re: How to build a new grammer for pg?

From
Julien Rouhaud
Date:
Hi,

On Tue, Aug 01, 2023 at 07:36:36PM +0800, jacktby wrote:
> <span style="font-family: Helvetica, Helvetica, 微软雅黑, 宋体;">Hi, I’m trying to develop a new grammar for pg, can
+you give me a code example to reference?</span><span>

It's unclear to me whether you want to entirely replace the flex/bison parser
with something else or just add some new bison rule.

If the latter, it really depends on what you change to achieve exactly.  I
guess you could just look at the gram.y git history until you find something
close enough to your use case and get inspiration from that.



Re: How to build a new grammer for pg?

From
Chapman Flack
Date:
On 2023-08-01 07:58, Julien Rouhaud wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 01, 2023 at 07:36:36PM +0800, jacktby wrote:
>> Hi, I’m trying to develop a new grammar for pg
> 
> It's unclear to me whether you want to entirely replace the flex/bison 
> parser
> with something else or just add some new bison rule.

Or express a grammar matching PG's in some other parser-generator
language, to enable some other tool to parse PG productions?

Regards,
-Chap



Re: How to build a new grammer for pg?

From
Andrew Dunstan
Date:


On 2023-08-01 Tu 12:50, Chapman Flack wrote:
On 2023-08-01 07:58, Julien Rouhaud wrote:
On Tue, Aug 01, 2023 at 07:36:36PM +0800, jacktby wrote:
Hi, I’m trying to develop a new grammar for pg

It's unclear to me whether you want to entirely replace the flex/bison parser
with something else or just add some new bison rule.

Or express a grammar matching PG's in some other parser-generator
language, to enable some other tool to parse PG productions?



Or to enable some language other than SQL (QUEL anyone?)


cheers


andrew

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Re: How to build a new grammer for pg?

From
"Jonah H. Harris"
Date:
On Tue, Aug 1, 2023 at 3:45 PM Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net> wrote:

Or to enable some language other than SQL (QUEL anyone?)


A few years ago, I got a minimal POSTQUEL working again to release as a patch for April Fools' Day, which I never did. I should dig that up somewhere :)

Anyway, as far as OP's original question regarding replacing the grammar, there are a couple of such implementations floating around that have done that. But, I actually think the pluggable parser patches were good examples of how to integrate a replacement parser that generates the expected parse tree nodes for anyone who wants to do their own custom parser. See Julien Rouhaud's SQLOL in the "Hook for extensible parsing" thread and Jim Mlodgenski's "Parser Hook" thread.

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Jonah H. Harris

Re: How to build a new grammer for pg?

From
Hannu Krosing
Date:
I would look at how Babelfish DB did it when adding SQL Server compatibility

https://babelfishpg.org/ and https://github.com/babelfish-for-postgresql/

another source to inspect could be
https://github.com/IvorySQL/IvorySQL for "oracle compatible
PostgreSQL"

On Tue, Aug 1, 2023 at 10:07 PM Jonah H. Harris <jonah.harris@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Aug 1, 2023 at 3:45 PM Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net> wrote:
>>
>> Or to enable some language other than SQL (QUEL anyone?)
>
>
> A few years ago, I got a minimal POSTQUEL working again to release as a patch for April Fools' Day, which I never
did.I should dig that up somewhere :) 
>
> Anyway, as far as OP's original question regarding replacing the grammar, there are a couple of such implementations
floatingaround that have done that. But, I actually think the pluggable parser patches were good examples of how to
integratea replacement parser that generates the expected parse tree nodes for anyone who wants to do their own custom
parser.See Julien Rouhaud's SQLOL in the "Hook for extensible parsing" thread and Jim Mlodgenski's "Parser Hook"
thread.
>
> --
> Jonah H. Harris
>