Thread: subtransaction performance

subtransaction performance

From
Zhihong Yu
Date:
Hi,
I stumbled over:

I wonder if SAVEPOINT / subtransaction performance has been boosted since the blog was written.

Cheers

Re: subtransaction performance

From
Bruce Momjian
Date:
On Fri, Oct  7, 2022 at 03:23:27PM -0700, Zhihong Yu wrote:
> Hi,
> I stumbled over:
> 
> https://about.gitlab.com/blog/2021/09/29/
> why-we-spent-the-last-month-eliminating-postgresql-subtransactions/
> 
> I wonder if SAVEPOINT / subtransaction performance has been boosted since the
> blog was written.

No, I have not seen any changes in this area since then.  Seems there
are two problems --- the 64 cache per session and the 64k on the
replica.  In both cases, it seems sizing is not optimal, but sizing is
never optimal.  I guess we can look at allowing manual size adjustment,
automatic size adjustment, or a different approach that is more graceful
for larger savepoint workloads.

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Re: subtransaction performance

From
Nathan Bossart
Date:
On Mon, Oct 10, 2022 at 02:20:37PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> On Fri, Oct  7, 2022 at 03:23:27PM -0700, Zhihong Yu wrote:
>> I wonder if SAVEPOINT / subtransaction performance has been boosted since the
>> blog was written.
> 
> No, I have not seen any changes in this area since then.  Seems there
> are two problems --- the 64 cache per session and the 64k on the
> replica.  In both cases, it seems sizing is not optimal, but sizing is
> never optimal.  I guess we can look at allowing manual size adjustment,
> automatic size adjustment, or a different approach that is more graceful
> for larger savepoint workloads.

I believe the following commitfest entries might be relevant to this
discussion:

    https://commitfest.postgresql.org/39/2627/
    https://commitfest.postgresql.org/39/3514/
    https://commitfest.postgresql.org/39/3806/

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Re: subtransaction performance

From
Bruce Momjian
Date:
On Mon, Oct 10, 2022 at 08:34:33PM -0700, Nathan Bossart wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 10, 2022 at 02:20:37PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > On Fri, Oct  7, 2022 at 03:23:27PM -0700, Zhihong Yu wrote:
> >> I wonder if SAVEPOINT / subtransaction performance has been boosted since the
> >> blog was written.
> > 
> > No, I have not seen any changes in this area since then.  Seems there
> > are two problems --- the 64 cache per session and the 64k on the
> > replica.  In both cases, it seems sizing is not optimal, but sizing is
> > never optimal.  I guess we can look at allowing manual size adjustment,
> > automatic size adjustment, or a different approach that is more graceful
> > for larger savepoint workloads.
> 
> I believe the following commitfest entries might be relevant to this
> discussion:
> 
>     https://commitfest.postgresql.org/39/2627/
>     https://commitfest.postgresql.org/39/3514/
>     https://commitfest.postgresql.org/39/3806/

Wow, odd that I missed those.  Yes, they are very relevant.  :-)
The only other idea I had was to report such overflows, but these are
better.

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