Thread: dexter on AWS RDS auto tune queries

dexter on AWS RDS auto tune queries

From
Ayub Khan
Date:

Other than Dexter, Is there an auto tune or query performance indicator for postgres ?
Also which are the most commonly used monitoring (slow query, cpu, index creation for missing indexs ) tools being used for postgres ?

--Ayub

Re: dexter on AWS RDS auto tune queries

From
Julien Rouhaud
Date:
Hi,

On Mon, Jun 7, 2021 at 12:52 PM Ayub Khan <ayub.hp@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Other than Dexter, Is there an auto tune or query performance indicator for postgres ?

It depends.  If you're on AWS or any other cloud, probably nothing
apart from tools based on logs or standard SQL execution (so nothing
based on third party extension).

> Also which are the most commonly used monitoring (slow query, cpu, index creation for missing indexs ) tools being
usedfor postgres ?
 

There are a lot of projects documented at
https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Monitoring



Re: dexter on AWS RDS auto tune queries

From
Christophe Pettus
Date:

> On Jun 6, 2021, at 21:51, Ayub Khan <ayub.hp@gmail.com> wrote:
> Other than Dexter, Is there an auto tune or query performance indicator for postgres ?

Generally, auto-creating indexes isn't a great idea.  I respect the work that went into Dexter, but it's much better to
findthe queries and study them, then decide if index creation is the right thing. 

RDS has Performance Insights, which is a very useful tool for finding where the load on your server is actually coming
from.


Re: dexter on AWS RDS auto tune queries

From
Ayub Khan
Date:
Thank you @Julian

@Christophe: yes I am using RDS performance insights, however it might be more helpful if it could give more info about the slowness of the queries and what improvements could be done to the queries itself.

I am using pgMusted to analyze a slow query and there the suggestion is to create an index on   app2.user_id, however app2.user_id is a primary key.

below is the query and its explain:

select * from (
SELECT
act.*,
app1.user_name AS created_by_username,
app2.user_name AS last_updated_by_username
FROM
account_transactions AS act LEFT OUTER JOIN app_user AS app1 ON app1.user_id = act.created_by
LEFT OUTER JOIN app_user AS app2 ON app2.user_id = act.last_updated_by
WHERE act.is_deleted = 'false' AND
act.CREATION_DATE BETWEEN TO_DATE('06/06/2021', 'DD-MM-YYYY') AND TO_DATE('07-06-2021', 'DD-MM-YYYY')
ORDER BY act.ID DESC
) as items order by id desc

Sort  (cost=488871.14..489914.69 rows=417420 width=270) (actual time=2965.815..2979.921 rows=118040 loops=1)
  Sort Key: act.id DESC
  Sort Method: quicksort  Memory: 57607kB
  ->  Merge Left Join  (cost=422961.21..449902.61 rows=417420 width=270) (actual time=2120.021..2884.484 rows=118040 loops=1)
        Merge Cond: (act.last_updated_by = ((app2.user_id)::numeric))
        ->  Sort  (cost=7293.98..7301.62 rows=3054 width=257) (actual time=464.243..481.292 rows=118040 loops=1)
              Sort Key: act.last_updated_by
              Sort Method: quicksort  Memory: 50899kB
              ->  Nested Loop Left Join  (cost=0.87..7117.21 rows=3054 width=257) (actual time=0.307..316.148 rows=118040 loops=1)
                    ->  Index Scan using creation_date on account_transactions act  (cost=0.44..192.55 rows=3054 width=244) (actual time=0.295..67.330 rows=118040 loops=1)
"                          Index Cond: ((creation_date >= to_date('06/06/2021'::text, 'DD-MM-YYYY'::text)) AND (creation_date <= to_date('07-06-2021'::text, 'DD-MM-YYYY'::text)))"
                          Filter: ((is_deleted)::text = 'false'::text)
                    ->  Index Scan using app_user_pk on app_user app1  (cost=0.43..2.27 rows=1 width=21) (actual time=0.002..0.002 rows=1 loops=118040)
                          Index Cond: (user_id = act.created_by)
        ->  Sort  (cost=415667.22..423248.65 rows=3032573 width=21) (actual time=1655.748..1876.596 rows=3079326 loops=1)
              Sort Key: ((app2.user_id)::numeric)
              Sort Method: quicksort  Memory: 335248kB
              ->  Seq Scan on app_user app2  (cost=0.00..89178.73 rows=3032573 width=21) (actual time=0.013..575.630 rows=3032702 loops=1)
Planning Time: 2.222 ms
Execution Time: 3009.387 ms


On Mon, Jun 7, 2021 at 8:00 AM Christophe Pettus <xof@thebuild.com> wrote:


> On Jun 6, 2021, at 21:51, Ayub Khan <ayub.hp@gmail.com> wrote:
> Other than Dexter, Is there an auto tune or query performance indicator for postgres ?

Generally, auto-creating indexes isn't a great idea.  I respect the work that went into Dexter, but it's much better to find the queries and study them, then decide if index creation is the right thing.

RDS has Performance Insights, which is a very useful tool for finding where the load on your server is actually coming from.


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Re: dexter on AWS RDS auto tune queries

From
Julien Rouhaud
Date:
Please don't top post here.

On Mon, Jun 7, 2021 at 3:50 PM Ayub Khan <ayub.hp@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> @Christophe: yes I am using RDS performance insights, however it might be more helpful if it could give more info
aboutthe slowness of the queries and what improvements could be done to the queries itself.
 
>
> I am using pgMusted to analyze a slow query and there the suggestion is to create an index on   app2.user_id, however
app2.user_idis a primary key.
 
>
> below is the query and its explain:
>
> select * from (
>   SELECT
>     act.*,
>     app1.user_name AS created_by_username,
>     app2.user_name AS last_updated_by_username
>   FROM
>     account_transactions AS act LEFT OUTER JOIN app_user AS app1 ON app1.user_id = act.created_by
>     LEFT OUTER JOIN app_user AS app2 ON app2.user_id = act.last_updated_by
>   WHERE act.is_deleted = 'false' AND
>         act.CREATION_DATE BETWEEN TO_DATE('06/06/2021', 'DD-MM-YYYY') AND TO_DATE('07-06-2021', 'DD-MM-YYYY')
>   ORDER BY act.ID DESC
> ) as items order by id desc
>
>
> Sort  (cost=488871.14..489914.69 rows=417420 width=270) (actual time=2965.815..2979.921 rows=118040 loops=1)
>   Sort Key: act.id DESC
>   Sort Method: quicksort  Memory: 57607kB
>   ->  Merge Left Join  (cost=422961.21..449902.61 rows=417420 width=270) (actual time=2120.021..2884.484 rows=118040
loops=1)
>         Merge Cond: (act.last_updated_by = ((app2.user_id)::numeric))
>         ->  Sort  (cost=7293.98..7301.62 rows=3054 width=257) (actual time=464.243..481.292 rows=118040 loops=1)
>               Sort Key: act.last_updated_by
>               Sort Method: quicksort  Memory: 50899kB
>               ->  Nested Loop Left Join  (cost=0.87..7117.21 rows=3054 width=257) (actual time=0.307..316.148
rows=118040loops=1)
 
>                     ->  Index Scan using creation_date on account_transactions act  (cost=0.44..192.55 rows=3054
width=244)(actual time=0.295..67.330 rows=118040 loops=1)
 
> "                          Index Cond: ((creation_date >= to_date('06/06/2021'::text, 'DD-MM-YYYY'::text)) AND
(creation_date<= to_date('07-06-2021'::text, 'DD-MM-YYYY'::text)))"
 
>                           Filter: ((is_deleted)::text = 'false'::text)
>                     ->  Index Scan using app_user_pk on app_user app1  (cost=0.43..2.27 rows=1 width=21) (actual
time=0.002..0.002rows=1 loops=118040)
 
>                           Index Cond: (user_id = act.created_by)
>         ->  Sort  (cost=415667.22..423248.65 rows=3032573 width=21) (actual time=1655.748..1876.596 rows=3079326
loops=1)
>               Sort Key: ((app2.user_id)::numeric)
>               Sort Method: quicksort  Memory: 335248kB
>               ->  Seq Scan on app_user app2  (cost=0.00..89178.73 rows=3032573 width=21) (actual time=0.013..575.630
rows=3032702loops=1)
 
> Planning Time: 2.222 ms
> Execution Time: 3009.387 ms

I'd say that your problem is that account_transactions.updated_by is
numeric (which seems like a terrible idea) while app_user.user_id is
not, so the index can't be used.  Some extensions could detect that,
but you won't be able to install them on RDS.



Re: dexter on AWS RDS auto tune queries

From
Ayub Khan
Date:
Julien,

Thank you for the pointer. I will change the data type and verify the query again.

-Ayub

On Mon, Jun 7, 2021 at 7:51 AM Ayub Khan <ayub.hp@gmail.com> wrote:

Other than Dexter, Is there an auto tune or query performance indicator for postgres ?
Also which are the most commonly used monitoring (slow query, cpu, index creation for missing indexs ) tools being used for postgres ?

--Ayub


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