Thread: Potential optimisation for the creation of a partial index conditionover a newly created nullable, non-default-valued column?

Hi all,

I was playing around with ways to make a schema change recently to a ~30M record table. I wanted to add a new nullable, non-default-valued column to this existing table, and then add a new partial to that table, where the partial index condition refers to a value in that newly added column. I was expecting that there might be an optimisation here that PostgreSQL could make, given the partial index condition could not be hit, but it seems not.

Here's what I was playing with:

tmp=> \timing on
Timing is on.
tmp=> BEGIN;
BEGIN
Time: 1.333 ms
tmp=> ALTER TABLE foo ADD COLUMN d integer NULL;
ALTER TABLE
Time: 1.581 ms
tmp=> CREATE UNIQUE INDEX myindex ON foo (a, b, c) where d = 2;
CREATE INDEX
Time: 37758.880 ms (00:37.759)
tmp=> COMMIT;
COMMIT
Time: 3.922 ms


Given that d = 2 could not ever be true as the nullable, non-default-valued column was just added inside the same transaction, I was hoping that the index creation would be instantaneous, as it realised there's no rows that this condition could be true for.

I definitely don't claim to be a databases expert. Is there something I'm missing as to why this optimisation could not be put in place? If this seems like a reasonable optimisation that could be made, is there a place that I should post / record it for future reference / assessment by the core developers?

Cheers,
Tim
On Thu, 4 Jun 2020 at 17:59, Tim Dawborn <tim.dawborn@gmail.com> wrote:
> tmp=> \timing on
> Timing is on.
> tmp=> BEGIN;
> BEGIN
> Time: 1.333 ms
> tmp=> ALTER TABLE foo ADD COLUMN d integer NULL;
> ALTER TABLE
> Time: 1.581 ms
> tmp=> CREATE UNIQUE INDEX myindex ON foo (a, b, c) where d = 2;
> CREATE INDEX
> Time: 37758.880 ms (00:37.759)
> tmp=> COMMIT;
> COMMIT
> Time: 3.922 ms
>
> Given that d = 2 could not ever be true as the nullable, non-default-valued column was just added inside the same
transaction,I was hoping that the index creation would be instantaneous, as it realised there's no rows that this
conditioncould be true for. 

While it could be technically possible to do something like check the
xmin of the pg_attribute record for all columns mentioned in the
index's predicate all are set to the current transaction ID and the
index predicate refutes an expression containing those columns with IS
NULL clauses or whatever the DEFAULT expression value is, we've just
no way to know if any rows were inserted or updated between the ALTER
TABLE and the CREATE INDEX. Certainly, no other transaction could have
done anything since we added the column due to us holding the
AccessExclusiveLock.  We just don't really have a way to know if our
own transaction did anything in between. So to do this, we'd need to
invent something to track that, and that something wouldn't be free to
maintain and we'd likely need to maintain it all the time since we'd
be unable to predict what future commands might need to use that
information.

It would likely be easier to go about it by having some sort of ALTER
TABLE ADD INDEX command, then just chain the alter tables together. We
have various other optimisations when multiple subcommands are used in
a single ALTER TABLE.  However, I'm not suggesting we go and allow
indexes to be created in ALTER TABLE. I"m just suggesting that it
would likely be a better alternative than inventing something to track
when a table last had

David



On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 at 20:15, David Rowley <dgrowleyml@gmail.com> wrote:
While it could be technically possible to do something like check the
xmin of the pg_attribute record for all columns mentioned in the
index's predicate all are set to the current transaction ID and the
index predicate refutes an expression containing those columns with IS
NULL clauses or whatever the DEFAULT expression value is, we've just
no way to know if any rows were inserted or updated between the ALTER
TABLE and the CREATE INDEX. Certainly, no other transaction could have
done anything since we added the column due to us holding the
AccessExclusiveLock.  We just don't really have a way to know if our
own transaction did anything in between. So to do this, we'd need to
invent something to track that, and that something wouldn't be free to
maintain and we'd likely need to maintain it all the time since we'd
be unable to predict what future commands might need to use that
information.

I see. Thanks for explaining. I'm not familiar with the internals of Postgres. I thought there might have already been something akin to a "dirty" bit for each table for each transaction to indicate whether or not it had been modified in some way, which could have been used for this hypothetical process. It sounds like that's not the case, in which case yes, the additional overhead of this bookkeeping required for this feature would be unjustifiable.
 
It would likely be easier to go about it by having some sort of ALTER
TABLE ADD INDEX command, then just chain the alter tables together. We
have various other optimisations when multiple subcommands are used in
a single ALTER TABLE.  However, I'm not suggesting we go and allow
indexes to be created in ALTER TABLE. I"m just suggesting that it
would likely be a better alternative than inventing something to track
when a table last had

Nice. I hadn't considered that as a way to go about solving this problem. Having a quick search online for ALTER TABLE CREATE INDEX syntax, it appears that MySQL does support this notion (via ALTER TABLE ADD INDEX), though it doesn't (currently) support partial indexes. Having a quick look in the mailing list archives, I couldn't find any discussions about supporting this syntax. What are the arguments against adding such additional syntax (other than the standard issues that come with adding additional syntax)?

Cheers,
Tim