Thread: New PostgreSQL Books
On Mar 16, 2018, at 3:42 PM, Sarah Schnurr <xenophenes42@gmail.com> wrote:Hello all!I'm one of the developers working on the new PostgreSQL website, and while reviewing for outdated information I noticed there's some new books published in 2017 & 2018 that aren't in the Books database. Are there any arguments against including these?
Additionally, I think it'd be a great idea to have more versatile resources provided to people looking to learn PostgreSQL. That seems to be the biggest barrier preventing people from getting started, from conversations I've had at conferences. So I'd like to include a new page under "Documentation" labeled something like "Online Resources".Some potential candidates for inclusion:If you disagree with the idea, any of the suggestions, or if you have any input on other resources/books to include please let me know.
Hi Sarah,On Mar 16, 2018, at 3:42 PM, Sarah Schnurr <xenophenes42@gmail.com> wrote:Hello all!I'm one of the developers working on the new PostgreSQL website, and while reviewing for outdated information I noticed there's some new books published in 2017 & 2018 that aren't in the Books database. Are there any arguments against including these?From my time helping to add content typically we’ve added books when peoplehave asked us to do so. From someone who predates me: are we ok withadding references to books when the author has not specifically reached out?
Additionally, I think it'd be a great idea to have more versatile resources provided to people looking to learn PostgreSQL. That seems to be the biggest barrier preventing people from getting started, from conversations I've had at conferences. So I'd like to include a new page under "Documentation" labeled something like "Online Resources".Some potential candidates for inclusion:If you disagree with the idea, any of the suggestions, or if you have any input on other resources/books to include please let me know.+1. I think we need to make sure that we periodically auditthe resources, but this is not different than what we have with professional servicesor products (which get audited every X years at this point).Jonathan
On Mar 16, 2018, at 4:05 PM, Dave Page <dpage@pgadmin.org> wrote:Hi Sarah,On Mar 16, 2018, at 3:42 PM, Sarah Schnurr <xenophenes42@gmail.com> wrote:Hello all!I'm one of the developers working on the new PostgreSQL website, and while reviewing for outdated information I noticed there's some new books published in 2017 & 2018 that aren't in the Books database. Are there any arguments against including these?From my time helping to add content typically we’ve added books when peoplehave asked us to do so. From someone who predates me: are we ok withadding references to books when the author has not specifically reached out?There are potential copyright images with pictures of them if we do that. I doubt anyone would complain, but you never know.
On Mar 16, 2018, at 4:05 PM, Dave Page <dpage@pgadmin.org> wrote:Hi Sarah,On Mar 16, 2018, at 3:42 PM, Sarah Schnurr <xenophenes42@gmail.com> wrote:Hello all!I'm one of the developers working on the new PostgreSQL website, and while reviewing for outdated information I noticed there's some new books published in 2017 & 2018 that aren't in the Books database. Are there any arguments against including these?From my time helping to add content typically we’ve added books when peoplehave asked us to do so. From someone who predates me: are we ok withadding references to books when the author has not specifically reached out?There are potential copyright images with pictures of them if we do that. I doubt anyone would complain, but you never know.In that case, we could do the old-fashioned “one of us reach out” and see if theyare okay with listing it.Jonathan
Thank you for the links!
v/r,
Chas
From: Dave Page <dpage@pgadmin.org>
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 3:05 PM
To: Jonathan S. Katz <jkatz@postgresql.org>
Cc: Sarah Schnurr <xenophenes42@gmail.com>; pgsql-advocacy@postgresql.org
Subject: Re: New PostgreSQL Books
On 16 Mar 2018, at 20:03, Jonathan S. Katz <jkatz@postgresql.org> wrote:
Hi Sarah,
On Mar 16, 2018, at 3:42 PM, Sarah Schnurr <xenophenes42@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello all!
I'm one of the developers working on the new PostgreSQL website, and while reviewing for outdated information I noticed there's some new books published in 2017 & 2018 that aren't in the Books database. Are there any arguments against including these?
From my time helping to add content typically we’ve added books when people
have asked us to do so. From someone who predates me: are we ok with
adding references to books when the author has not specifically reached out?
There are potential copyright images with pictures of them if we do that. I doubt anyone would complain, but you never know.
Additionally, I think it'd be a great idea to have more versatile resources provided to people looking to learn PostgreSQL. That seems to be the biggest barrier preventing people from getting started, from conversations I've had at conferences. So I'd like to include a new page under "Documentation" labeled something like "Online Resources".
Some potential candidates for inclusion:
If you disagree with the idea, any of the suggestions, or if you have any input on other resources/books to include please let me know.
+1. I think we need to make sure that we periodically audit
the resources, but this is not different than what we have with professional services
or products (which get audited every X years at this point).
Jonathan
On 2018-03-16 1:06 PM, Jonathan S. Katz wrote: >> On Mar 16, 2018, at 4:05 PM, Dave Page wrote: >> >> On 16 Mar 2018, at 20:03, Jonathan S. Katz wrote: >> >>>> On Mar 16, 2018, at 3:42 PM, Sarah Schnurr wrote: >>>> >>>> I'm one of the developers working on the new PostgreSQL website, and while >>>> reviewing for outdated information I noticed there's some new books >>>> published in 2017 & 2018 that aren't in the Books database. Are there any >>>> arguments against including these? >>>> >>>> * https://bookauthority.org/books/new-postgresql-books >>>> * https://bigmachine.io/products/a-curious-moon >>> From my time helping to add content typically we’ve added books when people >>> have asked us to do so. From someone who predates me: are we ok with >>> adding references to books when the author has not specifically reached out? >> >> There are potential copyright images with pictures of them if we do that. I >> doubt anyone would complain, but you never know. > > In that case, we could do the old-fashioned “one of us reach out” and see if they > are okay with listing it. Exactly, just what I was going to say. If they don't come to us, but we become aware they exist, we ask them. -- Darren Duncan
On 2018-03-16 20:08, Sarah Schnurr wrote: > I'd be more than happy to do that, if that's an agreeable solution. Go for it Sarah. Reaching out proactively to the authors is definitely ok. :) + Justin