Thread: Configuring messages language on Windows

Configuring messages language on Windows

From
a.parfenov@postgrespro.ru
Date:
Hello hackers,

As it mentioned in pg_locale.c, the variable LC_MESSAGES is ignored in 
Windows(pg_locale.c:162). In other systems, this variable is
used to select a messages language. But in Windows, the language is
selected based on system locale and couldn't be changed via
configuration. Additionally, this affects regress tests, since language
for messages generated by psql is also configured via LC_MESSAGES and
ignored on Windows installations and cause failure of tests on
non-English Windows installations.

I've done a little patch to fix that problem via usage of LANGUAGE 
variable on Windows systems. To get more information about LC_MESSAGES, 
LANGUAGE and other variable used in GNU gettext look at documentation 
[1].
IMHO that patch is more like a workaround and I'm not sure that it is 
safe for all combination of systems/compilers. I think we can find a
better way to solve the problem.

Also, there is a problem of mixing encoding in the log in case of 
databases with different encoding on one server. I didn't find any good 
solution how to work in such a case because each backend should use its 
own encoding in order to work with data and client properly. This 
problem is not Windows specific, but most of the OS use one Unicode 
encoding for all languages (e.g. UTF-8).

The main point of this message is to say about the problem, try to
find an appropriate solution and ask community's opinion about the
problem.

[1] 
https://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/manual/html_node/Locale-Environment-Variables.html
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Re: Configuring messages language on Windows

From
Noah Misch
Date:
On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 04:54:08PM +0300, a.parfenov@postgrespro.ru wrote:
> As it mentioned in pg_locale.c, the variable LC_MESSAGES is ignored in 
> Windows(pg_locale.c:162).

That comment says "On Windows, setlocale(LC_MESSAGES) does not work".  It says
nothing about the LC_MESSAGES environment variable.

> Additionally, this affects regress tests, since language
> for messages generated by psql is also configured via LC_MESSAGES and
> ignored on Windows installations and cause failure of tests on
> non-English Windows installations.

I vaguely recall having seen such a problem with an old version of GNU
gettext.  On Windows Server 2016, with binaries from
https://get.enterprisedb.com/postgresql/postgresql-11.0-beta3-windows-x64-binaries.zip,
in an account having its Windows display language set to "Español (España)", I
get this behavior:

$ for lang in '' it C; do LC_MESSAGES=$lang ./psql.exe --help; done | grep -e --output
  -o, --output=ARCHIVO enviar resultados de consultas a archivo (u |orden)
  -o, --output=NOME_FILE   reindirizza i risultati al file specificato
  -o, --output=FILENAME    send query results to file (or |pipe)

If you run those commands without your patch, what do you see?  What do you
see with your patch?  What does your environment have for each of the
following characteristics?

- Windows version
- gettext version
- user's Windows display language
- user's locale ("Format" in "Region" control panel)
- Windows ANSI code page
  ("Language for non-Unicode programs" in "Region" control panel)


Re: Configuring messages language on Windows

From
Dmitry Dolgov
Date:
> On Sun, Sep 2, 2018 at 12:50 AM Noah Misch <noah@leadboat.com> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 04:54:08PM +0300, a.parfenov@postgrespro.ru wrote:
> > As it mentioned in pg_locale.c, the variable LC_MESSAGES is ignored in
> > Windows(pg_locale.c:162).
>
> That comment says "On Windows, setlocale(LC_MESSAGES) does not work".  It says
> nothing about the LC_MESSAGES environment variable.
>
> > Additionally, this affects regress tests, since language
> > for messages generated by psql is also configured via LC_MESSAGES and
> > ignored on Windows installations and cause failure of tests on
> > non-English Windows installations.
>
> I vaguely recall having seen such a problem with an old version of GNU
> gettext.  On Windows Server 2016, with binaries from
> https://get.enterprisedb.com/postgresql/postgresql-11.0-beta3-windows-x64-binaries.zip,
> in an account having its Windows display language set to "Español (España)", I
> get this behavior:
>
> $ for lang in '' it C; do LC_MESSAGES=$lang ./psql.exe --help; done | grep -e --output
>   -o, --output=ARCHIVO enviar resultados de consultas a archivo (u |orden)
>   -o, --output=NOME_FILE   reindirizza i risultati al file specificato
>   -o, --output=FILENAME    send query results to file (or |pipe)
>
> If you run those commands without your patch, what do you see?  What do you
> see with your patch?  What does your environment have for each of the
> following characteristics?
>
> - Windows version
> - gettext version
> - user's Windows display language
> - user's locale ("Format" in "Region" control panel)
> - Windows ANSI code page
>   ("Language for non-Unicode programs" in "Region" control panel)

Due to age and lack of answers to the reviewers feedback, I think it's right to
mark this patch as "Returned with feedback", unless someone is interested and
wants to take over it.