Thread: No select privileges when not connecting from login postgres

No select privileges when not connecting from login postgres

From
Joseph Brenner
Date:
I'm trying to get a new build of 9.6.1 working on a machine
running Debian stable (jessie) and I'm seeing some odd
behavior where things work correctly if I run psql when
logged in as postgres, but if I run it as user 'doom' (my
usual login), I don't seem to have any select privileges.
Even this fails silenlty:

  select 'world' as hello;

But if run logged in as postgres, all is well:

  sudo su - postgres
  /usr/local/pgsql/bin/psql --dbname=doom --username=doom
  doom=#   select 'world' as hello;
    select 'world' as hello;
    hello
   -------
    world
   (1 row)

Note that I'm talking about the unix logins, in both cases
the postgresql username/role is 'doom' (which has Superuser
privileges and is the owner of the 'doom' database).

Looking at how the program files are installed, they're all
owned by 'root' with group 'staff':

  ls -la /usr/local/pgsql/bin/psql
  -rwxr-xr-x 1 root staff 516824 Nov 26 23:20 /usr/local/pgsql/bin/psql

So I added doom to the staff group and reloaded pg, but that
didn't help either.  The files in the data tree are all
owned by postgres, but I don't think that's unusual:

  drwx------ 1 postgres postgres    42 Nov 26 16:14 base

I'm running out of ideas for things to check.  Any suggestions?


Re: No select privileges when not connecting from login postgres

From
Julien Rouhaud
Date:
On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 08:48:41PM -0800, Joseph Brenner wrote:
> I'm trying to get a new build of 9.6.1 working on a machine
> running Debian stable (jessie) and I'm seeing some odd
> behavior where things work correctly if I run psql when
> logged in as postgres, but if I run it as user 'doom' (my
> usual login), I don't seem to have any select privileges.
> Even this fails silenlty:
>
>   select 'world' as hello;
>
> But if run logged in as postgres, all is well:
>
>   sudo su - postgres
>   /usr/local/pgsql/bin/psql --dbname=doom --username=doom
>   doom=#   select 'world' as hello;
>     select 'world' as hello;
>     hello
>    -------
>     world
>    (1 row)
> [...]
> I'm running out of ideas for things to check.  Any suggestions?
>

Any unusual errors in the logs?  Or maybe a "\o /somefile" in your
~doom/.psqlrc?

--
Julien Rouhaud
http://dalibo.com - http://dalibo.org


Re: No select privileges when not connecting from login postgres

From
Adrian Klaver
Date:
On 11/30/2016 08:48 PM, Joseph Brenner wrote:
> I'm trying to get a new build of 9.6.1 working on a machine
> running Debian stable (jessie) and I'm seeing some odd
> behavior where things work correctly if I run psql when
> logged in as postgres, but if I run it as user 'doom' (my
> usual login), I don't seem to have any select privileges.
> Even this fails silenlty:
>
>   select 'world' as hello;
>
> But if run logged in as postgres, all is well:
>
>   sudo su - postgres
>   /usr/local/pgsql/bin/psql --dbname=doom --username=doom
>   doom=#   select 'world' as hello;
>     select 'world' as hello;
>     hello
>    -------
>     world
>    (1 row)
>
> Note that I'm talking about the unix logins, in both cases
> the postgresql username/role is 'doom' (which has Superuser
> privileges and is the owner of the 'doom' database).
>
> Looking at how the program files are installed, they're all
> owned by 'root' with group 'staff':
>
>   ls -la /usr/local/pgsql/bin/psql
>   -rwxr-xr-x 1 root staff 516824 Nov 26 23:20 /usr/local/pgsql/bin/psql
>
> So I added doom to the staff group and reloaded pg, but that
> didn't help either.  The files in the data tree are all
> owned by postgres, but I don't think that's unusual:
>
>   drwx------ 1 postgres postgres    42 Nov 26 16:14 base
>
> I'm running out of ideas for things to check.  Any suggestions?

When you are logged in as OS user 'doom', the case that is not working,
what does:

psql -V

show?

Is the psql connection the exact same as the one you show for the
postgres OS user case?




>
>


--
Adrian Klaver
adrian.klaver@aklaver.com


Re: No select privileges when not connecting from login postgres

From
rob stone
Date:
On Wed, 2016-11-30 at 20:48 -0800, Joseph Brenner wrote:
> I'm trying to get a new build of 9.6.1 working on a machine
> running Debian stable (jessie) and I'm seeing some odd
> behavior where things work correctly if I run psql when
> logged in as postgres, but if I run it as user 'doom' (my
> usual login), I don't seem to have any select privileges.
> Even this fails silenlty:
>
>   select 'world' as hello;
>
> But if run logged in as postgres, all is well:
>
>   sudo su - postgres
>   /usr/local/pgsql/bin/psql --dbname=doom --username=doom
>   doom=#   select 'world' as hello;
>     select 'world' as hello;
>     hello
>    -------
>     world
>    (1 row)
>
>

I run Debian testing (stretch/sid).

For years now, the Postgres binaries are stored in:-

/usr/lib/postgresql/<major version>/bin

and are root:root owned.

E.g.:-

/usr/lib/postgresql/9.6/bin/psql appears as:-

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  580864 Nov  2 21:04 psql

So, it is executable by anybody, which is not an issue with me.

The reason behind this path convention is to enable you to run
different major versions of Postgres on the same computer.

I don't know how you installed Postgres and all I can suggest for
starters is to physically remove it and re-install from the Debian
packages.

HTH,
Rob


Re: No select privileges when not connecting from login postgres

From
Joseph Brenner
Date:
Logged in as "doom", -V shows version 9.6.1 as I'd expect:

/usr/local/pgsql/bin/psql -V
psql (PostgreSQL) 9.6.1

To *literally* answer your question though, I have a different version
installed in my $PATH:

psql -V
psql (PostgreSQL) 9.4.9

But yes, I've been invoking psql the same way as login 'doom' or login
'postgres':

/usr/local/pgsql/bin/psql --dbname=doom --username=doom



On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 7:10 AM, Adrian Klaver <adrian.klaver@aklaver.com> wrote:
> On 11/30/2016 08:48 PM, Joseph Brenner wrote:
>>
>> I'm trying to get a new build of 9.6.1 working on a machine
>> running Debian stable (jessie) and I'm seeing some odd
>> behavior where things work correctly if I run psql when
>> logged in as postgres, but if I run it as user 'doom' (my
>> usual login), I don't seem to have any select privileges.
>> Even this fails silenlty:
>>
>>   select 'world' as hello;
>>
>> But if run logged in as postgres, all is well:
>>
>>   sudo su - postgres
>>   /usr/local/pgsql/bin/psql --dbname=doom --username=doom
>>   doom=#   select 'world' as hello;
>>     select 'world' as hello;
>>     hello
>>    -------
>>     world
>>    (1 row)
>>
>> Note that I'm talking about the unix logins, in both cases
>> the postgresql username/role is 'doom' (which has Superuser
>> privileges and is the owner of the 'doom' database).
>>
>> Looking at how the program files are installed, they're all
>> owned by 'root' with group 'staff':
>>
>>   ls -la /usr/local/pgsql/bin/psql
>>   -rwxr-xr-x 1 root staff 516824 Nov 26 23:20 /usr/local/pgsql/bin/psql
>>
>> So I added doom to the staff group and reloaded pg, but that
>> didn't help either.  The files in the data tree are all
>> owned by postgres, but I don't think that's unusual:
>>
>>   drwx------ 1 postgres postgres    42 Nov 26 16:14 base
>>
>> I'm running out of ideas for things to check.  Any suggestions?
>
>
> When you are logged in as OS user 'doom', the case that is not working, what
> does:
>
> psql -V
>
> show?
>
> Is the psql connection the exact same as the one you show for the postgres
> OS user case?
>
>
>
>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Adrian Klaver
> adrian.klaver@aklaver.com


Re: No select privileges when not connecting from login postgres

From
Joseph Brenner
Date:
The version in the Debian stable repos right now is 9.4, and I saw an
issue with it I wanted to check against the latest version, so I did a
build of it from a tarball.

(Admittedly, there's no particular reason I need to be running stable,
and I was just wondering the other day why I wasn't using testing or
unstable).

The build steps I used are relatively conventional (following the
directions in the INSTALL file): this is how I ended up with an
installation in /usr/local.

The only thing unusual about the steps that I followed was I built
with port 5433 (rather than 5432) as the default, to make it easier to
run it in parallel with the system version, and I'm trying to use the
"with-perl" build option to link to a fresh build of perl:

sudo su
export LD_LIBRARY_PATH='/home/doom/End/Sys/Perl5/perl-5.24.0'
ldconfig
./configure --with-pgport=5433 --with-perl --with-openssl

make
make install
adduser postgres
mkdir /usr/local/pgsql/data
chown postgres /usr/local/pgsql/data
mkdir /var/lib/postgresql-9.6.1/
chown postgres /var/lib/postgresql-9.6.1/
su - postgres
/usr/local/pgsql/bin/initdb -D /usr/local/pgsql/data

/usr/local/pgsql/bin/postgres -D /usr/local/pgsql/data >
/var/lib/postgresql-9.6.1/logfile 2>&1 &


On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 7:23 AM, rob stone <floriparob@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, 2016-11-30 at 20:48 -0800, Joseph Brenner wrote:
>> I'm trying to get a new build of 9.6.1 working on a machine
>> running Debian stable (jessie) and I'm seeing some odd
>> behavior where things work correctly if I run psql when
>> logged in as postgres, but if I run it as user 'doom' (my
>> usual login), I don't seem to have any select privileges.
>> Even this fails silenlty:
>>
>>   select 'world' as hello;
>>
>> But if run logged in as postgres, all is well:
>>
>>   sudo su - postgres
>>   /usr/local/pgsql/bin/psql --dbname=doom --username=doom
>>   doom=#   select 'world' as hello;
>>     select 'world' as hello;
>>     hello
>>    -------
>>     world
>>    (1 row)
>>
>>
>
> I run Debian testing (stretch/sid).
>
> For years now, the Postgres binaries are stored in:-
>
> /usr/lib/postgresql/<major version>/bin
>
> and are root:root owned.
>
> E.g.:-
>
> /usr/lib/postgresql/9.6/bin/psql appears as:-
>
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  580864 Nov  2 21:04 psql
>
> So, it is executable by anybody, which is not an issue with me.
>
> The reason behind this path convention is to enable you to run
> different major versions of Postgres on the same computer.
>
> I don't know how you installed Postgres and all I can suggest for
> starters is to physically remove it and re-install from the Debian
> packages.
>
> HTH,
> Rob


Re: No select privileges when not connecting from login postgres

From
Joseph Brenner
Date:
> Any unusual errors in the logs?  Or maybe a "\o /somefile" in your
~doom/.psqlrc?

No, nothing much in the logs after "autovacuum launcher started", and
I don't have a .psqlrc file.

On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 6:56 AM, Julien Rouhaud
<julien.rouhaud@dalibo.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 08:48:41PM -0800, Joseph Brenner wrote:
>> I'm trying to get a new build of 9.6.1 working on a machine
>> running Debian stable (jessie) and I'm seeing some odd
>> behavior where things work correctly if I run psql when
>> logged in as postgres, but if I run it as user 'doom' (my
>> usual login), I don't seem to have any select privileges.
>> Even this fails silenlty:
>>
>>   select 'world' as hello;
>>
>> But if run logged in as postgres, all is well:
>>
>>   sudo su - postgres
>>   /usr/local/pgsql/bin/psql --dbname=doom --username=doom
>>   doom=#   select 'world' as hello;
>>     select 'world' as hello;
>>     hello
>>    -------
>>     world
>>    (1 row)
>> [...]
>> I'm running out of ideas for things to check.  Any suggestions?
>>
>
> Any unusual errors in the logs?  Or maybe a "\o /somefile" in your
> ~doom/.psqlrc?
>
> --
> Julien Rouhaud
> http://dalibo.com - http://dalibo.org


Re: No select privileges when not connecting from login postgres

From
Adrian Klaver
Date:
On 12/03/2016 02:55 PM, Joseph Brenner wrote:
> The version in the Debian stable repos right now is 9.4, and I saw an
> issue with it I wanted to check against the latest version, so I did a
> build of it from a tarball.

Save yourself some trouble and use the PGDG repos:

https://www.postgresql.org/download/linux/debian/

PostgreSQL Apt Repository

>
> (Admittedly, there's no particular reason I need to be running stable,
> and I was just wondering the other day why I wasn't using testing or
> unstable).
>
> The build steps I used are relatively conventional (following the
> directions in the INSTALL file): this is how I ended up with an
> installation in /usr/local.
>
> The only thing unusual about the steps that I followed was I built
> with port 5433 (rather than 5432) as the default, to make it easier to
> run it in parallel with the system version, and I'm trying to use the
> "with-perl" build option to link to a fresh build of perl:

In your psql commands you do not show connecting to port 5433

>
> sudo su
> export LD_LIBRARY_PATH='/home/doom/End/Sys/Perl5/perl-5.24.0'
> ldconfig
> ./configure --with-pgport=5433 --with-perl --with-openssl
>
> make
> make install
> adduser postgres
> mkdir /usr/local/pgsql/data
> chown postgres /usr/local/pgsql/data
> mkdir /var/lib/postgresql-9.6.1/
> chown postgres /var/lib/postgresql-9.6.1/
> su - postgres
> /usr/local/pgsql/bin/initdb -D /usr/local/pgsql/data
>
> /usr/local/pgsql/bin/postgres -D /usr/local/pgsql/data >
> /var/lib/postgresql-9.6.1/logfile 2>&1 &
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 7:23 AM, rob stone <floriparob@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 2016-11-30 at 20:48 -0800, Joseph Brenner wrote:
>>> I'm trying to get a new build of 9.6.1 working on a machine
>>> running Debian stable (jessie) and I'm seeing some odd
>>> behavior where things work correctly if I run psql when
>>> logged in as postgres, but if I run it as user 'doom' (my
>>> usual login), I don't seem to have any select privileges.
>>> Even this fails silenlty:
>>>
>>>   select 'world' as hello;
>>>
>>> But if run logged in as postgres, all is well:
>>>
>>>   sudo su - postgres
>>>   /usr/local/pgsql/bin/psql --dbname=doom --username=doom
>>>   doom=#   select 'world' as hello;
>>>     select 'world' as hello;
>>>     hello
>>>    -------
>>>     world
>>>    (1 row)
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I run Debian testing (stretch/sid).
>>
>> For years now, the Postgres binaries are stored in:-
>>
>> /usr/lib/postgresql/<major version>/bin
>>
>> and are root:root owned.
>>
>> E.g.:-
>>
>> /usr/lib/postgresql/9.6/bin/psql appears as:-
>>
>> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  580864 Nov  2 21:04 psql
>>
>> So, it is executable by anybody, which is not an issue with me.
>>
>> The reason behind this path convention is to enable you to run
>> different major versions of Postgres on the same computer.
>>
>> I don't know how you installed Postgres and all I can suggest for
>> starters is to physically remove it and re-install from the Debian
>> packages.
>>
>> HTH,
>> Rob
>
>


--
Adrian Klaver
adrian.klaver@aklaver.com


Re: No select privileges when not connecting from login postgres

From
Raymond O'Donnell
Date:
On 03/12/16 22:55, Joseph Brenner wrote:
> The version in the Debian stable repos right now is 9.4, and I saw an
> issue with it I wanted to check against the latest version, so I did a
> build of it from a tarball.

You can get the latest version from the PostgreSQL apt repo:

   http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Apt

Ray.

--
Raymond O'Donnell :: Galway :: Ireland
rod@iol.ie


Re: No select privileges when not connecting from login postgres

From
Joseph Brenner
Date:
> Save yourself some trouble and use the PGDG repos...

Yes, I was just trying one of those a little while ago.  It exhibits
the exact same behavior as my build from scratch.

> In your psql commands you do not show connecting to port 5433

That's correct: my reading of the installation instructions is that
I'm not supposed to have to do that: if you feed an alternate port
number to configure, it's supposed to change the default for both
server and client.

There was at least one experiment though where I started both server
and client with the usual port, 5432-- my feeling is that can't be the
problem, but I'll probably look into some more (Tom Lane seems to feel
there might be an issue there).



On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 4:46 PM, Adrian Klaver <adrian.klaver@aklaver.com> wrote:
> On 12/03/2016 02:55 PM, Joseph Brenner wrote:
>>
>> The version in the Debian stable repos right now is 9.4, and I saw an
>> issue with it I wanted to check against the latest version, so I did a
>> build of it from a tarball.
>
>
> Save yourself some trouble and use the PGDG repos:
>
> https://www.postgresql.org/download/linux/debian/
>
> PostgreSQL Apt Repository
>
>>
>> (Admittedly, there's no particular reason I need to be running stable,
>> and I was just wondering the other day why I wasn't using testing or
>> unstable).
>>
>> The build steps I used are relatively conventional (following the
>> directions in the INSTALL file): this is how I ended up with an
>> installation in /usr/local.
>>
>> The only thing unusual about the steps that I followed was I built
>> with port 5433 (rather than 5432) as the default, to make it easier to
>> run it in parallel with the system version, and I'm trying to use the
>> "with-perl" build option to link to a fresh build of perl:
>
>
> In your psql commands you do not show connecting to port 5433
>
>
>>
>> sudo su
>> export LD_LIBRARY_PATH='/home/doom/End/Sys/Perl5/perl-5.24.0'
>> ldconfig
>> ./configure --with-pgport=5433 --with-perl --with-openssl
>>
>> make
>> make install
>> adduser postgres
>> mkdir /usr/local/pgsql/data
>> chown postgres /usr/local/pgsql/data
>> mkdir /var/lib/postgresql-9.6.1/
>> chown postgres /var/lib/postgresql-9.6.1/
>> su - postgres
>> /usr/local/pgsql/bin/initdb -D /usr/local/pgsql/data
>>
>> /usr/local/pgsql/bin/postgres -D /usr/local/pgsql/data >
>> /var/lib/postgresql-9.6.1/logfile 2>&1 &
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 7:23 AM, rob stone <floriparob@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, 2016-11-30 at 20:48 -0800, Joseph Brenner wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'm trying to get a new build of 9.6.1 working on a machine
>>>> running Debian stable (jessie) and I'm seeing some odd
>>>> behavior where things work correctly if I run psql when
>>>> logged in as postgres, but if I run it as user 'doom' (my
>>>> usual login), I don't seem to have any select privileges.
>>>> Even this fails silenlty:
>>>>
>>>>   select 'world' as hello;
>>>>
>>>> But if run logged in as postgres, all is well:
>>>>
>>>>   sudo su - postgres
>>>>   /usr/local/pgsql/bin/psql --dbname=doom --username=doom
>>>>   doom=#   select 'world' as hello;
>>>>     select 'world' as hello;
>>>>     hello
>>>>    -------
>>>>     world
>>>>    (1 row)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> I run Debian testing (stretch/sid).
>>>
>>> For years now, the Postgres binaries are stored in:-
>>>
>>> /usr/lib/postgresql/<major version>/bin
>>>
>>> and are root:root owned.
>>>
>>> E.g.:-
>>>
>>> /usr/lib/postgresql/9.6/bin/psql appears as:-
>>>
>>> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  580864 Nov  2 21:04 psql
>>>
>>> So, it is executable by anybody, which is not an issue with me.
>>>
>>> The reason behind this path convention is to enable you to run
>>> different major versions of Postgres on the same computer.
>>>
>>> I don't know how you installed Postgres and all I can suggest for
>>> starters is to physically remove it and re-install from the Debian
>>> packages.
>>>
>>> HTH,
>>> Rob
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Adrian Klaver
> adrian.klaver@aklaver.com