Thread: Is it allowed to reuse a connection on which another thread waits for notifications?
Is it allowed to reuse a connection on which another thread waits for notifications?
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Jan Wrobel
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Hello, Recently I started to use LISTEN and NOTIFY with psycopg2 and I'm experiencing rare hangs of the application. I suspect my notification handling logic may be incorrect, in particular, I started to wonder whether it is OK to share a connection between a thread that listens for a notification and a thread that sends a notification. My notification thread executes: cursor = connection.cursor() # this connection has ISOLATION_LEVEL_AUTOCOMMIT cursor.execute("NOTIFY " + channel + ", %s", [message]) cursor.close() My listening thread executes: cursor = connection.cursor() # This is the same connection that is used by the NOTIFY thread. cursor.execute('LISTEN %s;' % (channel)) while True: if select.select([connection],[],[]) == ([],[],[]): continue connection.poll() while connection.notifies: notify = connection.notifies.pop() self.handle_notify(notify.channel, notify.payload) Is this approach correct, or should I use separate connection to send notifications? I know that in general connections are thread safe, but it is still true if one of the threads calls selects() with the connection or can this cause a deadlock? Best regards, Jan
Re: Is it allowed to reuse a connection on which another thread waits for notifications?
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Daniele Varrazzo
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On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 11:32 AM, Jan Wrobel <wrr@mixedbit.org> wrote: > Hello, > > Recently I started to use LISTEN and NOTIFY with psycopg2 and I'm > experiencing rare hangs of the application. I suspect my notification > handling logic may be incorrect, in particular, I started to wonder > whether it is OK to share a connection between a thread that listens > for a notification and a thread that sends a notification. It shouldn't be a problem, as long as you use separate cursors, as you appear doing. Are you positive you don't get the same locks using two different connections? > My notification thread executes: > > cursor = connection.cursor() # this connection has ISOLATION_LEVEL_AUTOCOMMIT > cursor.execute("NOTIFY " + channel + ", %s", [message]) > cursor.close() > > My listening thread executes: > > cursor = connection.cursor() # This is the same connection that is > used by the NOTIFY thread. > cursor.execute('LISTEN %s;' % (channel)) > while True: > if select.select([connection],[],[]) == ([],[],[]): > continue > connection.poll() > while connection.notifies: > notify = connection.notifies.pop() > self.handle_notify(notify.channel, notify.payload) > > Is this approach correct, or should I use separate connection to send > notifications? I know that in general connections are thread safe, but > it is still true if one of the threads calls selects() with the > connection or can this cause a deadlock? It's a scenario I've never explicitly tested, but there is no problem I foresee out of it. You may be triggering a bug: if you manage to put together a contained test case it would be great. A gdb stack trace of the locked process would be helpful too. Notifications may also be processed during the execute() in the other thread: in this case they would be correctly queued into connection.notify, but there would be nothing to wake the fd in the select(). Uhm... why don't you try using a timeout in select()? What psycopg version are you using? We have fixed a few multithread issues in the 2.4.x releases. -- Daniele
Re: Is it allowed to reuse a connection on which another thread waits for notifications?
From
Jan Wrobel
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On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 12:56 PM, Daniele Varrazzo <daniele.varrazzo@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 11:32 AM, Jan Wrobel <wrr@mixedbit.org> wrote: >> Hello, >> >> Recently I started to use LISTEN and NOTIFY with psycopg2 and I'm >> experiencing rare hangs of the application. I suspect my notification >> handling logic may be incorrect, in particular, I started to wonder >> whether it is OK to share a connection between a thread that listens >> for a notification and a thread that sends a notification. > > It shouldn't be a problem, as long as you use separate cursors, as you > appear doing. > > Are you positive you don't get the same locks using two different connections? I'll test this with two different connections and see if the problem is still there. >> My notification thread executes: >> >>[...] >> Is this approach correct, or should I use separate connection to send >> notifications? I know that in general connections are thread safe, but >> it is still true if one of the threads calls selects() with the >> connection or can this cause a deadlock? > > It's a scenario I've never explicitly tested, but there is no problem > I foresee out of it. You may be triggering a bug: if you manage to put > together a contained test case it would be great. A gdb stack trace of > the locked process would be helpful too. At the moment I don't have any useful stack trace. The problem occurs about once a day on a web server that automatically restarts hanged processes after 30s. I'll try to isolate the bug and collect a stack trace. > Notifications may also be processed during the execute() in the other > thread: in this case they would be correctly queued into > connection.notify, but there would be nothing to wake the fd in the > select(). Uhm... why don't you try using a timeout in select()? Is a reverse scenario possible? A notification thread waits for the execute() result, but it is never woken up because listening thread is woken up instead? > What psycopg version are you using? We have fixed a few multithread > issues in the 2.4.x releases. I use 2.4.6 Thank you, I'll let you know when I have more info, Jan