Thread: Re: No easy way to join discussion in existing thread when not subscribed

Re: No easy way to join discussion in existing thread when not subscribed

From
"Amir Rohan"
Date:
On 10/02/2015 05:04 PM, Kevin Grittner wrote:
> Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net> wrote:
>> Amir Rohan (amir.rohan@mail.com) wrote:
> 
>>> I added a blurb to the wiki about this. What about the "Mail me
>>> this message" proposed earlier? I'd be glad to help make that
>>> happen.
>>
>> I don't think anyone's really against that idea, except perhaps
>> that we need to try and avoid letting it be abused.
>>
>> Of course, someone needs to implement it.
> 
> I apologize if someone already pointed this out and I missed it in
> skimming this thread, but Majordomo lets you log in (using the

I did. Although I showed how you could do it via email to majordomo.
Good to know.

> password it sent you when you subscribed to the list) and (re-)send
> an email to your own email address.
> 
> (1) Click the link at the bottom of most any email; e.g.:
> 
>   To make changes to your subscription:
>   http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
> 
> (2) Sign in.
> 
> (3) Click on "Mailing Lists"
> 
> (4) Click the right list.
> 
> (5) Click on "Summary" to the right of "Message Archives".
> 
> (6) Drill down (through whichever search path you find most
> convenient) to the right email, and click the link to it.
> 
> (7) Click the "Mail this message" link at the bottom.
> 

vs.

1) Click the "Send me this email" link on the page your already on.

I think that would be significantly more convenient.

> Now, perhaps this could be made more convenient, but it's not as
> bad as the process described earlier in the thread.  I've done it a
> few times, and (having found how to do it) it just takes me a
> minute to log in to Majordomo and another minute per email I want
> to receive.
> 

The process I listed above (partly satirical) was not only about
following the procedure, but *discovering* what that procedure actually *is*.

The fact that people experience that precisely when they are motivated
to join the community for the first time is really unfortunate, and I want
it fixed. I certainly would have appreciated it when I went throught it (Last week).

The fact that you *can* do it by one semi-lengthy procedure or another 
is beside the point.

> That's not to say that new mbox options would be a bad thing.
Several people who expressed the same interest, but no one has
volunteered to implement what was finally agreed on.

Amir




Re: No easy way to join discussion in existing thread when not subscribed

From
Alvaro Herrera
Date:
This is a very, very odd thread in which to be omitting the References:
and In-Reply-To: headers.  What's wrong with your email client?

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Álvaro Herrera                http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/
PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Remote DBA, Training & Services



Re: No easy way to join discussion in existing thread when not subscribed

From
"Amir Rohan"
Date:
> Sent: Friday, October 02, 2015 at 5:33 PM
> From: "Alvaro Herrera" <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>

> This is a very, very odd thread in which to be omitting the References:
> and In-Reply-To: headers.  What's wrong with your email client?

This webmail provider is awful (and gmail/hotmail/foo
are out of the question). They randomly block outgoing smtp so
I'm forced to you use their web interface which disrupts
my emails in every possible way.

I tried a new form of "attack" with this email, if it works 
I'll use it from now on.  I'm very sorry.

Amir



Re: No easy way to join discussion in existing thread when not subscribed

From
Alvaro Herrera
Date:
Amir Rohan wrote:
> > Sent: Friday, October 02, 2015 at 5:33 PM
> > From: "Alvaro Herrera" <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>
> 
> > This is a very, very odd thread in which to be omitting the References:
> > and In-Reply-To: headers.  What's wrong with your email client?
> 
> This webmail provider is awful (and gmail/hotmail/foo
> are out of the question). They randomly block outgoing smtp so
> I'm forced to you use their web interface which disrupts
> my emails in every possible way.

Uh, that's horrible.

Ooh, I see in the mail.com website that it belongs to 1&1.  Interesting.
(Some guys from that company run a PUG in Karlsruhe, DE.)  I've had the
misfortune of using their email systems and they are truly troublesome.

> I tried a new form of "attack" with this email, if it works 
> I'll use it from now on.  I'm very sorry.

Yes, it seems to work now, thanks.  I hope they don't block it in the
future.

-- 
Álvaro Herrera                http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/
PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Remote DBA, Training & Services