Thread: Featured users page

Featured users page

From
Dave Page
Date:
http://www.postgresql.org/about/users/

This page hasn't been maintained in years, and is largely obsoleted by
various other resources, such as the case studies section of the
website.

Any objections to removing it?

-- 
Dave Page
Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com
Twitter: @pgsnake

EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com
The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company



Re: Featured users page

From
"Devrim GUNDUZ"
Date:
Hi,

On Mon, September 10, 2012 1:08 pm, Dave Page wrote:
> http://www.postgresql.org/about/users/
>
> This page hasn't been maintained in years, and is largely obsoleted by
> various other resources, such as the case studies section of the
> website.
>
> Any objections to removing it?

+1 for removing. It was good for the old days that we were trying to gain
some ground, but now we cannot keep track of even big users.

Regards,

--
Temporarily using a webmail program.



Re: Featured users page

From
Simon Riggs
Date:
On 10 September 2012 11:15, Devrim GUNDUZ <devrim@gunduz.org> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> On Mon, September 10, 2012 1:08 pm, Dave Page wrote:
>> http://www.postgresql.org/about/users/
>>
>> This page hasn't been maintained in years, and is largely obsoleted by
>> various other resources, such as the case studies section of the
>> website.
>>
>> Any objections to removing it?
>
> +1 for removing. It was good for the old days that we were trying to gain
> some ground, but now we cannot keep track of even big users.

-1 for removing. Having an old list just means spammers have a hard
time using it for bad things.

+1 for improving and updating.

-- Simon Riggs                   http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Training & Services



Re: Featured users page

From
"Jonathan S. Katz"
Date:
On Sep 10, 2012, at 6:28 AM, Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com> wrote:

> On 10 September 2012 11:15, Devrim GUNDUZ <devrim@gunduz.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Mon, September 10, 2012 1:08 pm, Dave Page wrote:
>>> http://www.postgresql.org/about/users/
>>>
>>> This page hasn't been maintained in years, and is largely obsoleted by
>>> various other resources, such as the case studies section of the
>>> website.
>>>
>>> Any objections to removing it?
>>
>> +1 for removing. It was good for the old days that we were trying to gain
>> some ground, but now we cannot keep track of even big users.
>
> -1 for removing. Having an old list just means spammers have a hard
> time using it for bad things.
>
> +1 for improving and updating.

Agree with Simon.  Perhaps make it easier to edit?  Wiki perhaps?  People then can either add their own companies /
companiesthey hear about using Postgres at meetups or other presentations, blogs, etc. 


Re: Featured users page

From
Josh Berkus
Date:
On 9/10/12 3:08 AM, Dave Page wrote:
> http://www.postgresql.org/about/users/
> 
> This page hasn't been maintained in years, and is largely obsoleted by
> various other resources, such as the case studies section of the
> website.

Case studies is maitained?  News to me.

> 
> Any objections to removing it?

I'll want to replace it sometime in the next year, but I don't object to
removing the existing page.

-- 
Josh Berkus
PostgreSQL Experts Inc.
http://pgexperts.com



Re: Featured users page

From
Josh Berkus
Date:
> I'll want to replace it sometime in the next year, but I don't object to
> removing the existing page.

Actually, I'm going to contradict myself.  Looking at the page, it's not
nearly as out-of-date as some portions of the website.  There's a few
names we should remove, but the rest of the page is still valuable.

There's new names we should add of course.  And eventually the page
should be replaced by an editable list.

-- 
Josh Berkus
PostgreSQL Experts Inc.
http://pgexperts.com



Re: Featured users page

From
Dave Page
Date:
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 10:28 AM, Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com> wrote:
> On 10 September 2012 11:15, Devrim GUNDUZ <devrim@gunduz.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Mon, September 10, 2012 1:08 pm, Dave Page wrote:
>>> http://www.postgresql.org/about/users/
>>>
>>> This page hasn't been maintained in years, and is largely obsoleted by
>>> various other resources, such as the case studies section of the
>>> website.
>>>
>>> Any objections to removing it?
>>
>> +1 for removing. It was good for the old days that we were trying to gain
>> some ground, but now we cannot keep track of even big users.
>
> -1 for removing. Having an old list just means spammers have a hard
> time using it for bad things.

I don't see how spammers would use it in any meaningful way - it's
just a list of companies that have used PG in the past, and I'm pretty
sure that's not a category of email addresses "marketing" companies
get asked for a lot! :-).

> +1 for improving and updating.

Are you volunteering to help? This is a large part of the issue - most
people get directed to the Software Catalog now, and the rest never
get added to the page because it's been on the unofficial "deprecated"
list for a long time. Bar a few minor updates, it hasn't really been
touched in nearly 7 years.

-- 
Dave Page
Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com
Twitter: @pgsnake

EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com
The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company



Re: Featured users page

From
Dave Page
Date:
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Jonathan S. Katz
<jonathan.katz@excoventures.com> wrote:
> On Sep 10, 2012, at 6:28 AM, Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com> wrote:
>
>> On 10 September 2012 11:15, Devrim GUNDUZ <devrim@gunduz.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> On Mon, September 10, 2012 1:08 pm, Dave Page wrote:
>>>> http://www.postgresql.org/about/users/
>>>>
>>>> This page hasn't been maintained in years, and is largely obsoleted by
>>>> various other resources, such as the case studies section of the
>>>> website.
>>>>
>>>> Any objections to removing it?
>>>
>>> +1 for removing. It was good for the old days that we were trying to gain
>>> some ground, but now we cannot keep track of even big users.
>>
>> -1 for removing. Having an old list just means spammers have a hard
>> time using it for bad things.
>>
>> +1 for improving and updating.
>
> Agree with Simon.  Perhaps make it easier to edit?  Wiki perhaps?  People then can either add their own companies /
companiesthey hear about using Postgres at meetups or other presentations, blogs, etc.
 

I'd be fine with it being on the wiki.

-- 
Dave Page
Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com
Twitter: @pgsnake

EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com
The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company



Re: Featured users page

From
Simon Riggs
Date:
On 11 September 2012 03:06, Dave Page <dpage@pgadmin.org> wrote:

> I'd be fine with it being on the wiki.

My take is its there now, its not useless, so why touch it.

Web site or Wiki makes little difference, as long as its accessible
from main points on website. Hidden in the Wiki won't help.

Yes, it could be updated. Yes, I'm sure I can be of assistance in updating it.

-- Simon Riggs                   http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Training & Services



Re: Featured users page

From
Dave Page
Date:
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 2:46 AM, Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com> wrote:
> On 11 September 2012 03:06, Dave Page <dpage@pgadmin.org> wrote:
>
>> I'd be fine with it being on the wiki.
>
> My take is its there now, its not useless, so why touch it.

I don't really see any use in it - it is out of date, and is
unmaintained, and there is significant overlap with other parts of the
site (case studies, software catalog, professional services/hosting
etc). We get semi-regular requests to have random companies we've
never heard of added to it, and invariably end up telling them no, and
having to explain why.

> Web site or Wiki makes little difference, as long as its accessible
> from main points on website. Hidden in the Wiki won't help.

It'll help in that others can easily edit it. When it's on the main
website it's much harder as people need to patch files in the website
framework, then get them applied.

> Yes, it could be updated. Yes, I'm sure I can be of assistance in updating it.

Thanks.

-- 
Dave Page
Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com
Twitter: @pgsnake

EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com
The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company